# Detail guys...need help....
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [April 30, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681 "2008-04-30T10:18:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/21 "2008-04-30T13:29:16Z")
does lexol work?
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/22 "2008-04-30T13:35:16Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> does lexol work?
somebody go to Tibet and bring some back and try it?
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### Author:  [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/23 "2008-04-30T14:20:18Z")
i wrote lexol asking about white leather. granted my seats are far from perfect but cleaner than the norm would be better.
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### Author:  [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/24 "2008-04-30T14:24:29Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> does lexol work?
myself and the 10ish others in this thread dig it :tup:
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### Author:  [@DBR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DBR)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/25 "2008-04-30T18:07:23Z")
Lexol is good stuff, but Zymol works best.
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### Author:  [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/26 "2008-04-30T18:41:32Z")
zymol makes a leather cleaner? or did you not read anything and assume this is for paint?
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### Author:  [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2008, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/27 "2008-05-01T08:13:19Z")
> [@ieatpaint315](#):
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> zymol makes a leather cleaner? or did you not read anything and assume this is for paint?
Yes Zymol makes leather cleaner and a conditioner, I’ve found it at target on occasion as werid as that is.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/28 "2008-05-01T09:21:39Z")
come on, some nerd detailer on here must be able to answer this.
> [@theblue](#):
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> here is the detailing nerd question of the day:
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> why do you need to know if a coffee stain is caffeinated or decaffeinated before cleaning?
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### Author:  [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/29 "2008-05-01T09:51:31Z")
Cause coffee has Tannin in it…
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### Author:  [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/30 "2008-05-01T10:01:47Z")
for the lexol cleaner, you can use that on white seats. for the conditioner…im not to sure. i thought i used it on a few white seats when i was at delta and they came out nice, but the color of the shit is a caramel color so i really cant remember.
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### Author:  [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/31 "2008-05-01T10:04:59Z")
use water with the cleaner if you do. and use a brush with like a horse hair, or something with a very soft brush
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/32 "2008-05-01T10:05:13Z")
> [@STEALTTH](#):
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> Cause coffee has Tannin in it…
true, but why does does a good detailer want to know if the coffee is caffeinated or decaffeinated?
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### Author:  [@ShowroomDetail](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShowroomDetail)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/33 "2008-05-03T13:10:08Z")
Regular coffee contains natural dyes and stains can be removed easily with a low ph cleaner like vinegar, decaf uses synthetic dyes to get the brown color which makes it a pain in the ass
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### Author:  [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)
#### Post date: [May 3, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/34 "2008-05-03T13:30:58Z")
> [@theblue](#):
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> true, but why does does a good detailer want to know if the coffee is caffeinated or decaffeinated?
why doesn’t anybody care? lol
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/35 "2008-05-13T14:17:48Z")
> [@ShowroomDetail](#):
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> Regular coffee contains natural dyes and stains can be removed easily with a low ph cleaner like vinegar, decaf uses synthetic dyes to get the brown color which makes it a pain in the ass
the winner. 👏 obviously this is why you get paid more than an ignorant detailer who would just rub the stain with a paper towel etc 😃
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### Author:  [@Drexial](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Drexial)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/36 "2008-05-13T17:50:19Z")
Lexol isn’t bad but no where near the power of this stuff [http://www.leatherique.com/](http://www.leatherique.com/)
Ha vent done this to mine yet. but the results are phenomenal. You use the conditioner first then do the cleaner. The conditioner moves the dirt to the surface then you clean it off. Its an overnight process
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/37 "2008-05-26T22:29:11Z")
Leatherique is for non coated leathers. Its meant to be a bit of a rejuvenating system. Not to say its not worth your time or money but Leatherique could potentially make a mess and just be not worth the cost if its used on todays modern leathers who may only require a gentle cleaner. Old P-car and Ferrari leathers are great examples of what leatherique would work great on. Not to mention leatherique always works better when its able to kinda sit on the surface to be cleaned for a while
Alot of people may have no heard this but Lexol has a rumor behind it that it was orignally made for horse and caddle tack leathers. In my experience it doesnt really give a great result for the price.
Good stuff especially is z9 and z10 from zaino and FourStar leather cleaner and conditioner. I use alot of both of these. 4star conditioner is awesome
Keep in mind that despite it being a very resiliant surface leather in our cars is still _somewhat_ porous and especially with perforated leathers can be easy to make a mess lol. Plus with it being leather, you can only do so much, it really may be stained. Thats not to say you cant make some really good improvement if not get all of it cleaned.
If you dont mind shipping, z9 and z10 or the 4star stuff is awesome. You can use a soft bristled brush with the cleaner and/or a microfiber. Work it gently then remove with your MF towel. Then apply your conditioner.
_deep breath_
Oh and hey all im Mike, just joined up here:headbang:
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### Author:  [@jkucz28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jkucz28)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/38 "2008-05-26T22:33:31Z")
> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> we use power blitz at the detail shop, mix it in with some water in a bucket and scrub away. usually works pretty well, then if the customer requests we seal the leather with a dupont sealer.
Must work for west herr somewhere. I would not recommend Power Blitz on leather as for its an engine cleaner even if its watered down simply because it would take color out. I would use regular soap and water and scrub it and then use some lexol. If the stains don’t come out, I would rather have lite stains than discolored leather.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/39 "2008-05-27T01:14:08Z")
You can actually use Woolite(yea the stuff you wash your moms sweaters in) on leather. Though I personally wouldn’t use it myself. There are recommendations from car manufacturers, I think maybe Lexus might be Caddy who tell you to use it. Problem with Woolite though its really gentle at the proper dilution, the residue from the detergents left behind can attract dirt become sticky if not wiped down again to remove it. Same thing with regular soap, it can leave a residue as well as dry out or sometimes stain delicate stuff. Soap is usually slightly alkaline.
Also I would never recommend any kind of alkaline cleaner in any dilution on leather despite modern leather being coated. pH neutral cleaners are the way to go on leather. Theres a reason its an engine degreaser…
4star and Zaino or Einszett!!!11
What kind of car is in question here Marcus??
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### Author:  [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detail-guys-need-help/47681/40 "2008-05-27T02:05:20Z")
> [@ShowroomDetail](#):
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> Regular coffee contains natural dyes and stains can be removed easily with a low ph cleaner like vinegar, decaf uses synthetic dyes to get the brown color which makes it a pain in the ass
A+ I learned something. Worthwhile post of the day
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