# Detroit in ruins

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 6, 2010, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917 "2010-01-06T09:43:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/41 "2010-01-06T16:47:47Z")

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The building in the beginning and in about half the shots is Michigan Central Station

![http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Mcshie.jpg/800px-Mcshie.jpg](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Mcshie.jpg/800px-Mcshie.jpg)

They are trying to save it, but it seems the whole city wants to knock it down.

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**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/42 "2010-01-06T17:01:11Z")

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I love the guy, and he’s a member of [AR15.com](http://AR15.com). Dudes ok in my book.

But the lefties hate the truth, and will tell us how more gov’t will fix everything.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/43 "2010-01-06T17:12:27Z")

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How can people write about Detroits downfall and not mention white flight… seriously, as more middle class white people moved to the burbs so did the companies that they work for. The largest contributing factor is the lack of tax revenue as a result of this.

> Consolidation during the 1950s, especially in the automobile sector, increased competition for jobs. An extensive freeway system constructed in the 1950s and 1960s had facilitated commuting. The Twelfth Street riot in 1967, as well as court-ordered busing accelerated white flight from the city. Commensurate with the shift of population and jobs to its suburbs, the city’s tax base eroded. In the years following, Detroit’s population fell from a peak of roughly 1.8 million in 1950 to about half that number today.[4]

> The first black mayor, Coleman Young, was elected in 1973.[19] Recent urban development in Detroit has led to some demolition and renovation.

> **[White flight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight)**
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> White flight or white exodus is the sudden or gradual large-scale migration of white people from areas becoming more racially or ethnoculturally diverse. Starting in the 1950s and 1960s, the terms became popular in the United States. They referred to the large-scale migration of people of various European ancestries from racially mixed urban regions to more racially homogeneous suburban or exurban regions. The term has more recently been applied to other migrations by whites, from Migration o...

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**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/44 "2010-01-06T17:56:38Z")

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> [@Just Karter](#):
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> Niagara falls pre casino looked alot like this.
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> Surprising how legal gambling really picks things up.  
> I think we need more casinos, like about 50 of them, turn this place into the new vegas. Casinos create jobs, lots of them.

srsly? have you been in the burbs of vegas?

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**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/45 "2010-01-06T18:22:25Z")

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I’d do any UAW job for 14$ an hr + benefits, they can keep the 401k, ill handle saving money myself.

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**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/46 "2010-01-06T19:26:15Z")

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Its because of all the black people.

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**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/47 "2010-01-06T19:32:56Z")

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> [@Just Karter](#):
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> I’d do any UAW job for 14$ an hr + benefits, they can keep the 401k, ill handle saving money myself.

Well youre bout spot on.

I started at Delphi for 14/hour. Health care came about a year later.

And I bet your fat ass couldnt do %50 of the jobs without passing out.

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/48 "2010-01-06T19:46:44Z")

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> [@PureXTC](#):
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> Well youre bout spot on.
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> I started at Delphi for 14/hour. Health care came about a year later.
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> **And I bet your fat ass couldnt do %50 of the jobs without passing out.**

lolguy. What a jerkass statement. And %50? Really?

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/49 "2010-01-06T19:49:47Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> How can people write about Detroits downfall and not mention white flight… seriously, as more middle class white people moved to the burbs so did the companies that they work for. The largest contributing factor is the lack of tax revenue as a result of this.
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> [White flight - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight)

Hard to argue. One of my older co-worker talks about the 70’s when the mayor told the whites to get on the other side of 8 mile, I looked up the quote and it wasn’t what he said, but that is how many people took it.

Also, Detroit has some of the farthest distance commuters ever.  
With the auto companies offering free cars, insurance and gas to executives, living 50+ miles away from work with a huge highway system of 70 mph roads is not uncommon. Also, city tax of 1.5% for non-residence of the city also sucks.

As for the 'burbs I have never seen money like this in Buffalo; Bentley’s, Lambos, Aston Martins and Ferraris all parked next to each other on the streets in Birmingham on the weekends.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-in-ruins/77917/50 "2010-01-06T20:17:10Z")

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I agree - the suburbs of Detroit are really nice. Also University of Michigan is world class.

Detroit itself makes me really appreciate Buffalo. Even San Francisco made me appreciate many aspects of Buffalo I hadn’t prior to visiting.

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