# Dever, CO Legalizes the Mary Jane

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 2, 2005, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993 "2005-11-02T10:48:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/121 "2005-11-03T18:30:33Z")

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> [@Darkstar](#):
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> some stupid BS scenario? America is fucking obese. McDonalds and the fast fod culture has turned America into a bunch of fat, unhealthy slobs. YOu say that pot shouldnt be legal because of its health effects.
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> Fast food = bad health
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> pot (supposedly) = bad health
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> why dont you want to ban cheeseburgers too since they do indeed kill thousands of americans every year.

ban mcdonalds for using fake food 🤣

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/122 "2005-11-03T18:31:40Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> simple example is the hippie stoners and acid freaks. look where they are now? homes because they shit themselves cause of too many drugs, mental institutions for brain farts or total loss of control, etc. I know a local guy they call brown acid who is still high from the 80’s. all he did was smoke weed and do LSD and now he isn’t allowed ketchup in the bar I work at cause he smears it all over his face instead of on his fries.

dont bring acid into this arguement. it has nothing to do with pot. :ugh:

wanna see what the long term effects of pot? Look at Willie Nelson or Tommy Chong. they’re not in homes. They’re fine. :ugh:

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/123 "2005-11-03T18:32:28Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> I just thought of something darkstar was the inspiration for the old mister bucket board game commercials. they knew he was goin to be a waste even then

please explain to me how you are so much better off in life than I am, because you continually try to make it out like Im a worthless pothead that isnt doing anything with my life.

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**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/124 "2005-11-03T18:33:45Z")

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> [@Darkstar](#):
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> ban cheeseburgers

🤣

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/125 "2005-11-03T18:34:43Z")

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just face it knapp, everyone is better than you because they dont dabble with a little weed

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/126 "2005-11-03T18:35:30Z")

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> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> you are totally missing the point. Since its stored in fat cells it remains in your system and when the fat stores are used for energy in your body they have the potential of affecting the body again once used.
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> Before DS starts with the BS comments, no I’m not saying you can smoke one joint and then can get high for a month just by burning fat. I am saying that as you smoke on a regualr basis and it gets stored in the fat cells there is a potential for a high concentration that is re released into the system and affecting you when you least expect it.
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> Alochol doesn’t get stored in your body…

🤣

thats hilarous.

“hey man… we’re all outta buds. lets go run on the treadmill for a half hour and we’ll be blazed again!”

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/127 "2005-11-03T18:36:28Z")

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> [@mesteño](#):
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> just face it knapp, everyone is better than you because they dont dabble with a little weed

the ignorance is unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![81Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ac8455/32.png) [@81Boo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/81Boo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/128 "2005-11-03T18:36:56Z")

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THATS THE WAY TO STOP OBESITY! Make pot legal, and force feed it to fat people. Then make them exercise!

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/129 "2005-11-03T18:38:27Z")

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> [@4x4Blazer](#):
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> 🤣

why not. by sight and sound’s logic if it hurts people, it should be illegal.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/130 "2005-11-03T18:39:36Z")

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> [@4x4Blazer](#):
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> THATS THE WAY TO STOP OBESITY! Make pot legal, and force feed it to fat people. Then make them exercise!

:bowdown:

Mr Knapp! what did you do on your lunch break!?!?

uhhh, i went for a jog, man… giggle giggle giggle

YOU"RE FUCKING FIRED!

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/131 "2005-11-03T18:45:23Z")

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> [@Darkstar](#):
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> some stupid BS scenario? America is fucking obese. McDonalds and the fast fod culture has turned America into a bunch of fat, unhealthy slobs. YOu say that pot shouldnt be legal because of its health effects.
> 
> Fast food = bad health
> 
> pot (supposedly) = bad health
> 
> why dont you want to ban cheeseburgers too since they do indeed kill thousands of americans every year.

You truley are a fucking worthless piece of shit pothead. You need food to survive, You don’t need fucking pot asshole. And again too much of ANY kind of food will lead to obeacity you fucking idiot.

please shut the fuck up already, since none of your stupid fucking example are real world…

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/132 "2005-11-03T18:47:16Z")

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> [@Darkstar](#):
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> dont bring acid into this arguement. it has nothing to do with pot. :ugh:
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> wanna see what the long term effects of pot? Look at Willie Nelson or Tommy Chong. they’re not in homes. They’re fine. :ugh:

yeah tommy chung there is a guy you see all over the place :ugh: again you are picking a hand full of people and saying “look”. I guess science is a fucking fairytale…

Oh no wait thats what you live in…

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/133 "2005-11-03T18:48:10Z")

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who cares, its just pot

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/134 "2005-11-03T18:48:38Z")

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> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> You truley are a fucking worthless piece of shit pothead. You need food to survive, You don’t need fucking pot asshole. And again too much of ANY kind of food will lead to obeacity you fucking idiot.
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> please shut the fuck up already, since none of your stupid fucking example are real world…

you dont need deep fried cheeseburgers to survive anymore than you need pot to survive. and I dont know of any fat vegetarians, do you?

sure, some of my inferences are a bit thin, but your reasons for the prohibition of pot are thin, so when I relate them to REAL WORLD analogies, they seem stupid. Herego, your reasons for wanting pot illegal are bogus and unsubstantiated.

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/135 "2005-11-03T18:49:19Z")

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> [@Darkstar](#):
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> why not. by sight and sound’s logic if it hurts people, it should be illegal.

No shit head, it doesn’t do any good to legalize it for recreational use you fucking tool.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/136 "2005-11-03T18:51:21Z")

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> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> yeah tommy chung there is a guy you see all over the place :ugh: again you are picking a hand full of people and saying “look”. I guess science is a fucking fairytale…
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> Oh no wait thats what you live in…

you do see Chong all over the place. He’s got a new movie coming out. You didnt hear much from him over the last few years because the government had him locked behind bars for selling bongs over the internet and in his bong shop in Pittsburgh. Thank goodness. we all know how much of a menace to society Chong is.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/137 "2005-11-03T18:51:44Z")

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> [@Darkstar](#):
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> you dont need deep fried cheeseburgers to survive anymore than you need pot to survive. and I dont know of any fat vegetarians, do you?
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> sure, some of my inferences are a bit thin, but your reasons for the prohibition of pot are thin, so when I relate them to REAL WORLD analogies, they seem stupid. Herego, your reasons for wanting pot illegal are bogus and unsubstantiated.

did I say you need fried cheese burgers? No

People make cheese brugers at home them selves, my dad grills all the time in the summer and he is 180 lbs, Yup its not the cheeseburgers causing the problems its fucktards that eat it for breakfast lunch and dinner that are the fucking problem.

So again explain what health benifits there are to Pot…

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/138 "2005-11-03T18:52:52Z")

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> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> No shit head, it doesn’t do any good to legalize it for recreational use you fucking tool.

I have an idea. in your next post, you write a list of all the bad things that would happen if pot was legalized. I’ll write all the good things. and then we’ll compare.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/139 "2005-11-03T18:54:48Z")

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> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> People make cheese brugers at home them selves, my dad grills all the time in the summer and he is 180 lbs, Yup its not the cheeseburgers causing the problems its fucktards that eat it for breakfast lunch and dinner that are the fucking problem.

just like pot shouldnt be illegal just because of the fucktards that smoke it before breakfast, lunch and dinner. and every 30 min inbetween.

sure there is a minority that use it too much, but that doesnt mean we should punish the VAST majority that use it responsibly.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dever-co-legalizes-the-mary-jane/177993/140 "2005-11-03T18:56:31Z")

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Who opposes legalizing Marijuana and why  
There are many types of people who oppose legalizing Marijuana for a variety of reasons. Many of these groups have some very strange reasons and selfish interests. Many are just ignorant of the facts. Here’s some of the opposition:

The Uninformed - People who believe the misinformation that Pot is harmful to society.

The Government - Pot has been illegal for so long that no politicians have the political courage to tell the truth about Pot. The ones that do tell the truth are defeated by their opponents that paint them as a druggie. Many of these anti-drug politicians are funded by the Alcohol lobby.

Religion - Anything fun is sin and of the Devil. Churches might lose members as people figure out that God can’t be that stupid.

Moralizers - The morally superior who enjoy looking down their noses at the less fortunate and get a sadistic thrill in putting people in jail.

People who do no Drugs - These people who don’t drink, don’t smoke, in some cases don’t even drink coffee. They just don’t understand why anyone would want to smoke anything or do any drug. From their perspective the world would be better off if no one did anything.

The Alcohol Lobby - Legalizing Pot would seriously cut into the sales of Beer. Pot would become the recreational drug of choice because it is safer than Beer.

The Tobacco Lobby - Pot has the ability in some people to help them break the addiction of nicotine. Pot smoking could actually reduce the number of tobacco addicts.

Law Enforcement - There are a lot of people who make a living fighting Pot who would have to go get a real job if Pot were legalized. Police departments get a lot of funding to fight Marijuana and those funds could be returned to the taxpayer if Pot were made legal. Cops would have to chase robbers, rapists, and murderers.

Government Agencies - Using unconstitutional civil forfeiture laws the government has been able to use the presence of Pot to steal billions of dollars of private property from the People. Drug laws have been an excuse to circumvent our constitutional right and justify wire tap laws, the erosion of protection from illegal searches, key recovery encryption, and domestic spying. If you take a politically unpopular position like this one I’m taking now, the government can plant drugs on you and put you away.

Pot Dealers - If Pot were legalized then people making money off of selling Pot illegally would be out of business. Pot prices would drop to $10 a bale. Crime relating to illegal Pot money would vanish.

Wood Industry - Hemp would become the primary source of fiber for paper products as well as a new source for building materials. We wouldn’t have to cut down every big tree in the world.

Private Prisons - If Pot were legalized the private prison industry would be hurt. They would no longer jail Pot smokers. It could free up space for violent criminals.

Trial Lawyers - Normal people caught with a joint spend billions each year on lawyers to get them off of criminal charges after getting caught with a joint. Lawyers get rich off of the Marijuana laws. If Marijuana were legal this money could be spent sending your kids to college.

Mental Hospitals - There’s a big industry treating people for problems they don’t have. If you have insurance, you’re crazy until the insurance coverage runs out. If you smoke Pot then you have mental problems. If Pot were legal some of these people would have to get real jobs. We should start treating people who are addicted to 12 step programs.

Republicans - Pot helps you see reality the way it really is. It’s harder to con a Pot smoker on political issues. Once you get stoned it’s harder to want to hate Liberals, Queers, Blacks, Pregnant Teens, Draft Dodgers, President Clinton, Feminists, Lesbians, Pot Smokers, and other people the Republicans want you to hate. When you’re stoned it’s harder to like Newt Gingrich, John Ashcroft, the KKK, the Christian Coalition, Jerry Falwell, Pat Buchanan, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, People who beat Gay’s to Death, People who blow up Abortion Clinics, and the morally superior in general.

Political Cowards - Politicians like to pose with police as somebody who is “against drugs” promising to lock up all the pot smokers and throw away the key. These people need an artificial issue to be against so they don’t have to face real issues like how to protect the public from crooked lawyers and crooked judges. Political cowards cross all party lines when it comes to pot and includes President Clinton.

Others - These groups could also be hurt by legalizing Pot. Car body shops would get less alcohol related wrecks to fix. Hospitals would get less alcohol related business as would alcohol treatment centers and funeral homes. It could hurt cemeteries and tombstone makers as well.

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