# DHS can search all your devices within 100 mi of US border

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**Created:** [February 11, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661 "2013-02-11T07:34:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/1 "2013-02-11T07:34:19Z")

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> **[DHS watchdog: DHS can search all your devices within 100 mi of US border](https://boingboing.net/2013/02/09/dhs-watchdog-dhs-can-search-a.html)**
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> DHS watchdog: DHS can search all your devices within 100 mi of US border

> **[DHS Watchdog OKs 'Suspicionless' Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border](https://www.wired.com/2013/02/electronics-border-seizures/)**
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> The Department of Homeland Security's civil liberties watchdog has concluded that travelers along the nation's borders may have their electronic devices seized and their contents reviewed for any reason whatsoever -- all in the interest of national...

:tspry: :usa: :tspry: :usa: :tspry:

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**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/2 "2013-02-11T07:42:02Z")

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Conspiracy theorist!

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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/3 "2013-02-11T07:49:24Z")

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In b4 #tinfoil

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/4 "2013-02-11T07:52:59Z")

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It’s not a conspiracy when the entire thing is publicly disclosed lol

This creates a number of situations like crossing the border the laptop that has pirated software/movies/music/whatever/nudes on your cell phone lol

This is a lot different then idiots bitching that DHS purchased X amount of ammunition of X amount of years.

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/5 "2013-02-11T07:55:43Z")

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[http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/crcl-border-search-impact-assessment\_01-29-13\_1.pdf](http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/crcl-border-search-impact-assessment_01-29-13_1.pdf)

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/6 "2013-02-11T08:17:36Z")

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There are other things they want to do within 100 miles but I won’t discuss until it becomes “publicly disclosed”. 😉

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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/7 "2013-02-11T08:23:29Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> It’s not a conspiracy when the entire thing is publicly disclosed lol
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> This creates a number of situations like crossing the border the laptop that has pirated software/movies/music/whatever/nudes on your cell phone lol
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> This is a lot different then idiots bitching that DHS purchased X amount of ammunition of X amount of years.

In the end it’s going to be the same domestic task force I suspect. You know, the task force Obama stated must be as big and powerful as the US military. 8/

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/8 "2013-02-11T08:35:30Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> There are other things they want to do within 100 miles but I won’t discuss until it becomes “publicly disclosed”. 😉

Because I look at actual risk and exposure to issues…

The idea here was to make people aware because there are a number of scenarios where people could get electronic devices searched and end up with some sort of charges.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/9 "2013-02-11T09:18:54Z")

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I always wrap my laptop in tin foil when at the border.

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/10 "2013-02-11T09:51:57Z")

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Is there any clarification on when they can search them? for example, does this give them free reign to come in your residence and “search devices”? Pull you over? Break into a parked car? just walkin around? Or is this just for airports/border crossings?

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/11 "2013-02-11T13:19:00Z")

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Yeah back in the 70’s they defined the border zone as being within 100 freaking miles of the actual border, and basically suspended the constitution within that zone (not that we follow it anywhere else for that matter.) This probably ties into that?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/12 "2013-02-11T13:24:08Z")

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> [@Geehee](#):
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> Is there any clarification on when they can search them? for example, does this give them free reign to come in your residence and “search devices”? Pull you over? Break into a parked car? just walkin around? Or is this just for airports/border crossings?

I assume its if you’re “traveling” but who knows.

It’s never good to have your phone/computer/ipod searched I know we have a list of countries at work we can’t bring our primary laptops into. We have to use loaner ones which get the HDs destroyed etc. I know people who have been in China and had their laptops taken for inspection and they came back later with screws loose etc.

My guess is the government doesn’t have the resources to abuse this currently however if you ended up in some sketchy situation im curious if they could get you for copyright etc.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/13 "2013-02-11T14:25:51Z")

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You may have my freedom but you can’t have my nudes!

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/14 "2013-02-11T15:34:58Z")

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:io:

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/15 "2013-03-09T08:23:36Z")

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Oh hey

> **[9th Circuit Appeals Court: 4th Amendment Applies At The Border; Also: Password...](https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130308/13380622263/9th-circuit-appeals-court-4th-amendment-applies-border-also-password-protected-files-shouldnt-arouse-suspicion.shtml)**
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> Here's a surprise ruling. For many years we've written about how troubling it is that Homeland Security agents are able to search the contents of electronic devices, such as computers and phones at the border, without any reason. The 4th...

**9th Circuit Appeals Court: 4th Amendment Applies At The Border; Also: Password Protected Files Shouldn’t Arouse Suspicion**

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/16 "2013-03-09T08:34:48Z")

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:tup:

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/17 "2013-03-09T08:34:48Z")

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Encrypt said laptop/phone

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/18 "2013-03-09T19:17:27Z")

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I want to enlighten so many folks here…but…i’ll just let you bask in your conspiracies

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/19 "2013-03-09T19:49:40Z")

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> [@snowracer101](#):
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> I want to enlighten so many folks here…but…i’ll just let you bask in your conspiracies

Enlighten they had the court case for a reason lol

They don’t just rule on topics like this for no reason

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dhs-can-search-all-your-devices-within-100-mi-of-us-border/228661/20 "2013-03-09T20:01:13Z")

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Yes, please do.

[https://youtu.be/u4Ku17CqdZg](https://youtu.be/u4Ku17CqdZg)

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