# diagram of "who owns who" in the automotive world
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [February 24, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032 "2007-02-24T01:00:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/21 "2007-02-24T11:46:51Z")
ford still owns part or something of mazda, I can go get a A,X, or Z plan on a mazda right now
[quote=“Ddrop,post:20,topic:25032"”]
deff an old diagram. ford owned only 33% of mazda maybe back in the 90s…
lol @ daewoo
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### Author:  [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/22 "2007-02-24T15:52:20Z")
Diamler owns chrysler. So it should just be a big diamler in the middle not a diamler chrysler.
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/23 "2007-02-24T16:00:08Z")
[quote=“slasky,post:22,topic:25032"”]
Diamler owns chrysler. So it should just be a big diamler in the middle not a diamler chrysler.
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i beleive when diamler-benz bought chrysler, the company was renamed Diamler Chrysler
could be wrong though
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/24 "2007-02-24T19:29:06Z")
It was a “merger” Diamler-Benz bought Chrysler, merged names but Daimler-Benz is now debating selling back out due to having to pick up former debts and pensions and what not. But as per a discussion a few of us had the other day, it’s doubtful it’ll happen, it’s a good place to write off losses.
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### Author:  [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/25 "2007-02-24T20:48:46Z")
hmm interesting
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### Author:  [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/26 "2007-02-24T22:27:58Z")
[quote=“MPD47,post:24,topic:25032"”]
It was a “merger” Diamler-Benz bought Chrysler, merged names but Daimler-Benz is now debating selling back out due to having to pick up former debts and pensions and what not. But as per a discussion a few of us had the other day, it’s doubtful it’ll happen, it’s a good place to write off losses.
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It was billed as a merger but it was a buyout. Now there are only two American car companies.
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/27 "2007-02-24T22:29:15Z")
What about Audi who I believe owns Lamborghini?
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### Author:  [@soopa7fly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/soopa7fly)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/28 "2007-02-24T22:38:27Z")
[quote=“dreid,post:21,topic:25032"”]
ford still owns part or something of mazda, I can go get a A,X, or Z plan on a mazda right now
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im pretty sure ford owns more of mazda right now, something in the 40’s or low 50’s
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2007, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/29 "2007-02-25T05:56:16Z")
Porsche is independent.
They may own part of VW but so what.
No other auto maker owns Porsche.
They have always worked with Audi and VW.
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2007, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/30 "2007-02-25T06:25:36Z")
[quote=“misteroman$$$,post:27,topic:25032"”]
What about Audi who I believe owns Lamborghini?
D
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Lamborghini-\>Audi-\>VW which is on that chart
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### Author:  [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2007, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/31 "2007-02-25T09:21:19Z")
[quote=“MPD47,post:13,topic:25032"”]
Ferrari no longer owns Masterati, Fiat controls them now. That happened late last year.
Lotus is owned 51% by VW now.
Porsche owns 29% or 33% of VW/Audi Group (whatever the max for german law is before making a formal take over offer).
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I guess the law changed as of late and porsche may be looking at acquiring a controlling share of vw.
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2007, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/32 "2007-02-25T09:29:49Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:30,topic:25032"”]
Lamborghini-\>Audi-\>VW which is on that chart
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Wow.Have no idea how I missed that.Thanks
D
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/33 "2007-02-25T13:33:36Z")
[quote=“fiend540,post:31,topic:25032"”]
I guess the law changed as of late and porsche may be looking at acquiring a controlling share of vw.
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They’re lobbying to change the law. It is still in effect, they’ve been wanting to get a controlling share for about 4 years now.
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