# Did Apple Screw the Pooch? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 10, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993 "2015-09-10T06:46:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/21 "2015-09-11T06:47:17Z")
I usually don’t get the middle S phone but I am going for it this year. I think Tim Cook has taken the control and done a good job even if everyone is giving him shit for doing what Jobs would never have done. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/22 "2015-09-11T11:16:44Z")
amazing they make all this great shit but cant make ear buds that actually stay in your fucking ear with anything over a brisk walk ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/23 "2015-09-11T11:34:57Z")
I hate my LG G3 cell phone. I got it earlier this year because it was the fastest phone per verizon rep. I hate it so much, the keyboard constantly makes me hit the wrong letter when typing, it runs so hot abd get super slow. The mp3 playlist wheb listening on shuffle plays the same song a couple times in an hour period even though i jave a couple thousand songs. I cant read the screen when im outside unless i have brightness cranked up, and then the battery goes super fast. Its laggy, crashes often, just sucg a piece of shit,now i see why they release a new one every 6 months, at least iphones take a year or two before they run shitty. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/24 "2015-09-11T19:02:18Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I really tried hard to love my Lumia 1020 there was 2-3 apps I use fairly often for work that were complete junk on Windows mobile ☹ > > The camera, battery, and phone were amazing but apps :tif: Well Windows mobile is really no more. Now everything is going to be scalable between PC, xbox, phone, etc. It’s all going to be practically one “universal windows platform.” So if it works on a desktop, it’ll work on the phone. Neat stuff here: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oi1B9fjVs4) 950XL will be my next phone :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/25 "2015-09-12T03:58:53Z")
> [@Wahoo](#): > > I hate my LG G3 cell phone. I got it earlier this year because it was the fastest phone per verizon rep. I hate it so much, the keyboard constantly makes me hit the wrong letter when typing, it runs so hot abd get super slow. The mp3 playlist wheb listening on shuffle plays the same song a couple times in an hour period even though i jave a couple thousand songs. > > I cant read the screen when im outside unless i have brightness cranked up, and then the battery goes super fast. > > Its laggy, crashes often, just sucg a piece of shit,now i see why they release a new one every 6 months, at least iphones take a year or two before they run shitty. I had the G3 and had a lot of the same problems. Dont forget, its a year and a half old. Battery life was the worst, with that giant screen it nuked it like no other with the brightness anything above zero. I got an S6 Active and they all went away. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/26 "2015-09-12T04:43:23Z")
I’m still using my release day iPhone 5S and it’s literally been the toughest SOB in the world. Battery life is only now starting to get a bit meh, but that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/27 "2015-09-12T06:09:46Z")
I need to get a new phone. My iPhone 5 battery crapped out on me long ago and now even the charging plug is jacked. I was really thinking about going to the samsung galaxy but now I don’t know. I only played with a couple android phones a few times and if its not your phone, sometimes navigating them can be confusing where as with the iPhone, it’s so straight forward. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/28 "2015-09-12T07:09:32Z")
![http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-blog/blogs/ikea-pencil-hed-2015.jpg](http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-blog/blogs/ikea-pencil-hed-2015.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/29 "2015-09-12T07:50:35Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > I need to get a new phone. My iPhone 5 battery crapped out on me long ago and now even the charging plug is jacked. I was really thinking about going to the samsung galaxy but now I don’t know. I only played with a couple android phones a few times and if its not your phone, sometimes navigating them can be confusing where as with the iPhone, it’s so straight forward. your battery is under recall. I just had my iphone5 battery replaced for free from apple (google search make sure your serial number is in the list but i bet it is). my iphone5 has been awesome. just kicking myself for only getting the 8gig… Ill probibly grab a 6s and a life-proof Morpheus case for it. I like my Snowlizard case but Ive had to warranty it 2x i really never had issues with my life proof. I also like the Ipad Pro. my ipad 2 is at its life’s end it runs so slow now with the newer programs and again only has 16gigs Id like the bigger screen, and look forward to the split screen that droid has had forever. I do things in 2 languages a lot and hate the lack of split screen. ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/30 "2015-09-13T10:29:52Z")
I use an Droid turbo phone, Xbox One, Windows 7 desktop, and a Macbook Air laptop. I am all over the board and don’t have much issues. The only common application across these devices is Google Drive really. I guess the only thing I am really missing out on that would be better in the Apple ecosystem is being able to shoot video across multiple devices. Chromecast does it (pretty medicore) but I don’t do it enough. If I did not have an Xbox for my cord-cutting cable apps I would probably get the new Apple TV. Also Facetime is 10x better than SKype (especially when trying to call anyone over the age of 50). Apple stuff does work better out of the box. I guess I am too “techy” to commit to one ecosystem. I think half the fun is setting these devices up to talk to each other and link up… ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/31 "2015-09-14T11:26:42Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > And let’s not even get into the whole fragmentation issue with the android OS since they let every carrier bastardize it then fail to issue updates. iOS is fragmented too, not really by OS version but feature set which is worse IMO. If you want to compare iOS vs Android you should only be comparing iPhone vs Nexus devices since that the only fair comparison you can do ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/32 "2015-09-14T11:27:45Z")
> [@Tunerfreak](#): > > iOS is fragmented too, not really by OS version but feature set which is worse IMO. > > If you want to compare iOS vs Android you should only be comparing iPhone vs Nexus devices since that the only fair comparison you can do iOS is fragmented I don’t think you understand what that word means :lol: ![http://cdn1.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2015/08/Screen-Shot-2015-08-04-at-12.09.41-PM.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/3/e39b99dbba31aa5a8846c2a8000ab3f3fd17a08b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/33 "2015-09-14T11:30:53Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > iOS is fragmented I don’t think you understand what that word means :lol: oh? then enlighten me i guess because fragmented means having multiple versions of something. Android is OS fragmented iOS is feature fragmented even though a user can be on the same OS version (see multi window support only for newer iPad versions as an example) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/34 "2015-09-14T11:34:15Z")
> [@Tunerfreak](#): > > oh? then enlighten me i guess because fragmented means having multiple versions of something. > > Android is OS fragmented > iOS is feature fragmented even though a user can be on the same OS version (see multi window support only for newer iPad versions as an example) Limiting features based on hardware requirements isn’t fragmentation those devices still receive current updates they just don’t have the power to do X. The issue Android has with OEM/Carriers holding back versions represents a huge issue for security. So you really think not having multi window support on a older iPad is worse then a bunch of Android phones who can get complete taken over by a MMS message? or simply browsing a website? okkkkk On the original topic **“Apple says new iPhone orders are on track to break sales records”** > **[Apple says new iPhone orders are on track to break sales records](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/09/14/apple-says-new-iphone-orders-are-on-track-to-break-sales-records/)** > > Apple says it's on pace to break its first-weekend record of 10 million units People also seemed to miss this announcement $32 a month iPhones - [http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/09/09/apple-wants-to-sell-you-an-iphone-for-32-a-month/](http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/09/09/apple-wants-to-sell-you-an-iphone-for-32-a-month/) ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/35 "2015-09-14T11:38:43Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Limiting features based on hardware requirements isn’t fragmentation. > > The issue Android has with OEM/Carriers holding back versions represents a huge issue for security. I dont deny Android has a security problem because of OEMs/carriers. However it is extremely rare to see OEM’s limit android features on OS upgrades. Here is also a nice code example of iOS fragmentation its a pleasure supporting devices this way… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/36 "2015-09-14T11:49:59Z")
The 5S just got moved to free on contract as of the last announcement. ![http://i.imgur.com/89r8JNh.png](http://i.imgur.com/89r8JNh.png) - - - Updated - - - I can see how 4 versions of iPhones is pretty fragmented ![http://i.imgur.com/u4UP1sg.png](http://i.imgur.com/u4UP1sg.png) ![http://i.imgur.com/EjIpWNO.png](http://i.imgur.com/EjIpWNO.png) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/37 "2015-09-14T11:55:44Z")
Was going to reply to the fragmentation thing but LZ has done it all. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/38 "2015-09-14T12:00:05Z")
@LZ1 Yes comparing an OS that is only sold by one company who so happens to create the OS to an OS where many companies sell devices seems logical. Again if you want a fair comparison you should be comparing nexus devices, all of which from the nexus 7 on have the latest OS version which would be the equivalent of the iPhone 4 or 4s on i believe > [@JayS](#): > > Was going to reply to the fragmentation thing but LZ has done it all. hardly a fair comparison ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/39 "2015-09-14T12:07:35Z")
It doesn’t have to be a fair comparison the way it works in the real world is Android has really horrible fragmentation issues :lol: I had a Nexus 5 last year the Camera was horrible and the phone was meh I have also had multiple other flag ship Android phones over the past few years and largely Android is a mess. I’m not looking to convert anyone to Apple but I look at security on Android and iOS devices as part of my job and Android phones present a large issue. The plan right now is to grab the new Nexus 5X when it comes out for testing and international travel but again im not expecting awesome things. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993/40 "2015-09-14T12:19:17Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > It doesn’t have to be a fair comparison the way it works in the real world is Android has really horrible fragmentation issues :lol: > > I had a Nexus 5 last year the Camera was horrible and the phone was meh I have also had multiple other flag ship Android phones over the past few years and largely Android is a mess. I’m not looking to convert anyone to Apple but I look at security on Android and iOS devices as part of my job and Android phones present a large issue. > > The plan right now is to grab the new Nexus 5X when it comes out for testing and international travel but again im not expecting awesome things. And again I agree on the security part I just dont agree with the “fragmentation” stuff everyone always bring up. If you dont buy a Nexus you are not really buying and Android device IMO [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-apple-screw-the-pooch/272993.md?page=3)