# Diet and workout help... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 15, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604 "2009-10-15T10:37:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/1 "2009-10-15T10:37:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/2 "2009-10-15T10:40:58Z")
Cutting + Bulking at the same time is near impossible unless you are a genetic freak. Prepare for slow gains. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/3 "2009-10-15T10:42:19Z")
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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/4 "2009-10-15T10:57:20Z")
You should really check out a body building forum. [Bodybuilding.com](http://Bodybuilding.com) I think it is. Theres a few members here who train, but the stickies on those forums you could spend hours reading. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/5 "2009-10-15T10:58:23Z")
[quote=“RBakerian,post:80,topic:24479"”] You should really check out a body building forum. [Bodybuilding.com](http://Bodybuilding.com) I think it is. Theres a few members here who train, but the stickies on those forums you could spend hours reading. [/quote] Reading now… Thanks… ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/6 "2009-10-15T11:49:17Z")
What are your goals for right now, short term rather than longterm? To cut weight or to gain weight? As a beginner as long as your following something that resembles an intelligent workout and diet plan you will make good gains in both gaining muscle mass and losing fat. That doesn’t last and after that you will need to choose which goal you want to achieve, I personally prefer gain and than lose rather than the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/7 "2009-10-15T12:05:25Z")
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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/8 "2009-10-15T13:36:50Z")
I’ve been eating a lot of Oatmeal in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/9 "2009-10-15T15:02:54Z")
Bananas (eat after workout) and peanut butter (lunch or afternoon snack) are good for bulking up. 3 meals a day isn’t the best for bulking up, your better off with 5 small to med sized meals if you can fit that into your schedule. ---
**Author:** ![JRubino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrubino/32/6285_2.png) [@JRubino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JRubino)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/10 "2009-10-16T08:35:56Z")
I got tired of ever trying to be bigger then what I am now. I stay right around 145-150 and am perfectly fine with that. ---
**Author:** ![Gendy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gendy/32/6456_2.png) [@Gendy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gendy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/11 "2009-10-16T10:10:23Z")
I’ve been mildly working out for a couple years now, and i’m no expert and dont really do much research, but have similar goals as yourself… But i usually eat more in the winter and lift heavy and gain some weight, then when the spring comes i run 4x a week and do less weight lifting. I switch over to smaller weights more reps. This has been working for me as well to be expected. MY diet still isnt perfect but i have cut out a lot of crap/sugar/carbs from my everyday diet and generally just feel healthier. Plus the last couple springs/summers i felt like i started to shred away a few % points of BF and look more cut ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/12 "2009-10-16T10:36:21Z")
> [@Where to download Torrent or whole cds](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-to-download-torrent-or-whole-cds/24456/26): > > So with a few of the threads I’ve read over about a week I see there are some other people here that work out. I’m pretty new to the gym and want to gain weight but also lower body fat. > > I’m 25, 6’4", 212lbs. I want to lower my body fat and gain weight. A long term goal would to be 235lbs+. I have not checked yet, but I would guess my current body fat to be around 20%. Ideally that should probably be more like 10%. > > I go to the gym 5 days per week. My routine is this: > > mon. 15 mins cardio / upper body “A” > tue. 15 mins cardio / lower body “A” > wed. 45 mins cardio / no lifting > thur. 15 mins cardio / upper body “B” > fri. 15 min cardio / lower body “B” > > A typical day of eating would be this: > > 5:30 - 3 eggs, 1 apple > 6:30 - workout > 7:45 - 2 scoops protein (right after workout) > 10:00 - protein bar > noon - whatever is around (subway, etc) this meal needs to be cleaned up… > 3:00 - apple > 6:00 - varies - yesterday was 2-cans of tuna, mayo, and 5 pieces of bread > 10:00 - 1 scoop protein > > I think I need to add some more food in there and clean up my noon meal. I’m looking for any advice anyone has to give… I also need to go grocery shopping this weekend… Look into the Keto diet. It is pretty intense but it works amazing for some people. Basically, you set your body into a stage called ketosis. Basically it is starvation mode, without the starvation. To do it, you eat VERY few carbs, and lots of oils/fats. The point is, your body naturally gets its energy from glucose which is broken down from the carbs you inject. And while working out on this diet is fine, it is hard to lose fat, while building muscle. With keto, your body switches over to use your fat reserves/intake as an energy source. When this happens, your muscles still grow but your body fat decreases, very efficiently. To really look into it, search for the diet on the forum you are reading now. It is not a long term diet, as it is bad for your liver in long term settings but for short term it does a great job. Edit: Be ready to eat a TON of food on this diet. 7 square meals is just a start… ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/13 "2009-10-16T10:49:07Z")
u may think that diet is good but in fact it sucks ass. sorry just saying. u are pairing up fats with sugars/carbs and thats a no no for cutting. if u do it the right way, u will lose weight. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/14 "2009-10-16T10:53:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/15 "2009-10-16T10:53:20Z")
Whatever you do, do NOT take advice from deadbeatrec. deadbeat: You’re built like a 12 year old girl and have no clue what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/16 "2009-10-16T10:54:15Z")
> [@\*sigh\* phone geeks... wth is with the 403 error?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-phone-geeks-wth-is-with-the-403-error/24498/5): > > Whatever you do, do NOT take advice from deadbeatrec. > > deadbeat: You’re built like a 12 year old girl and have no clue what you’re talking about. this ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/17 "2009-10-16T10:55:23Z")
> [@Review: Sylvania Silverstar Ultra](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/review-sylvania-silverstar-ultra/24398/23): > > u may think that diet is good but in fact it sucks ass. sorry just saying. u are pairing up fats with sugars/carbs and thats a no no for cutting. if u do it the right way, u will lose weight. I don’t understand how it sucks ass? Basically you are eliminating “most” of your sugar/carb intake and replacing it with fat. I do not see how you are pairing them to the point it will affect you negatively. Maybe I am missing something but I have read into this fairly well and spoke with some people who do it… Hell, I almost talked myself into doing it but I can’t fathom how much $$ I would be spending on food. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/18 "2009-10-16T10:57:45Z")
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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/19 "2009-10-16T11:01:22Z")
> [@\*sigh\* phone geeks... wth is with the 403 error?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sigh-phone-geeks-wth-is-with-the-403-error/24498/6): > > I don’t understand how it sucks ass? Basically you are eliminating “most” of your sugar/carb intake and replacing it with fat. I do not see how you are pairing them to the point it will affect you negatively. Maybe I am missing something but I have read into this fairly well and spoke with some people who do it… > > Hell, I almost talked myself into doing it but I can’t fathom how much $$ I would be spending on food. r u really going to make me do it??? ok fine fine!!! 5:30 - 3 eggs, 1 apple (eggs are saturated fats and he is eating them with a natural sugar hence spiking his insulin.huge no no unless trying to gain weight) 6:30 - workout 7:45 - 2 scoops protein (right after workout) (u need a fast acting sugar here like a dextrose or maltodextrin or else the protein is almost useless) 10:00 - protein bar (protein should always be eaten with a fat or a carb) noon - whatever is around (subway, etc) this meal needs to be cleaned up… (do i really have to say anything about this one?) 3:00 - apple (again with the sugars. the only time u need an apple or a fruit is pre workout) 6:00 - varies - yesterday was 2-cans of tuna, mayo, and 5 pieces of bread (meyo and bread = no no) 10:00 - 1 scoop protein (again with the eating protein and no fats or carbs) ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/20 "2009-10-16T11:04:02Z")
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