# Diet and workout help... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 15, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604 "2009-10-15T10:37:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/21 "2009-10-16T11:04:26Z")
> [@happy birthday 94wvwglxvr6](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-94wvwglxvr6/24535/27): > > r u really going to make me do it??? ok fine fine!!! > > 5:30 - 3 eggs, 1 apple (eggs are saturated fats and he is eating them with a natural sugar hence spiking his insulin.huge no no unless trying to gain weight) > 6:30 - workout > 7:45 - 2 scoops protein (right after workout) (u need a fast acting sugar here like a dextrose or maltodextrin or else the protein is almost useless) > 10:00 - protein bar (protein should always be eaten with a fat or a carb) > noon - whatever is around (subway, etc) this meal needs to be cleaned up… (do i really have to say anything about this one?) > 3:00 - apple (again with the sugars. the only time u need an apple or a fruit is pre workout) > 6:00 - varies - yesterday was 2-cans of tuna, mayo, and 5 pieces of bread (meyo and bread = no no) > 10:00 - 1 scoop protein (again with the eating protein and no fats or carbs) Ahhhh, nvmd. I thought you were talking about the diet that I posted about Keto. I didn’t realize your post was directed towards him… In his case you’re right. His diet sucks ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/22 "2009-10-16T11:08:40Z")
> [@2-13-07 Mad L33t Drifto Meet](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-13-07-mad-l33t-drifto-meet/24509/28): > > deadbeat, that was exactly the type of input I was looking for. Thanks. separate all carbs and fats meal 1 should be pro and carb. meal 2 pro and fats pre workout should be 1 scoop pro and an apple post w/o should be 1 scoop pro with 25 grams dextros ppw/o should be pro and veggies pre bed should be pro and fats. if u are 6’4 215lbs or whatever it said, you body will be consuming about 2800-3000 cals a day, so there for to effectivly diet u need to target that cal range about 2500 to start. then as u plataue, go a lil lower. so on and so on. cardio-if can be done right when u wake up this is what u want. no food no water or anything in u at all. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/23 "2009-10-16T11:14:03Z")
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**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/24 "2009-10-16T11:14:48Z")
> [@Howard Stern is getting married!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/howard-stern-is-getting-married/24545/7): > > separate all carbs and sugars Did you mean separate all carbs and fats? ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/25 "2009-10-16T11:16:42Z")
> [@New VW R32](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-vw-r32/24536/19): > > Did you mean separate all carbs and fats? yes my bad and u want to bulk not cut? im so confused. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/26 "2009-10-16T11:17:34Z")
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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/27 "2009-10-16T11:18:52Z")
dirty bulk, eat anything and everything in sight. clean bulk, eat lots of clean foods and separate carbs from fats. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/28 "2009-10-16T11:19:42Z")
> [@Howard Stern is getting married!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/howard-stern-is-getting-married/24545/7): > > **separate all carbs and sugars** > > meal 1 should be pro and carb. > > meal 2 pro and fats > > pre workout should be 1 scoop pro and an apple > > post w/o should be 1 scoop pro with 25 grams dextros > > ppw/o should be pro and veggies > > pre bed should be pro and fats. > > if u are 6’4 215lbs or whatever it said, you body will be consuming about 2800-3000 cals a day, so there for to effectivly diet u need to target that cal range about 2500 to start. then as u plataue, go a lil lower. so on and so on. > > cardio-if can be done right when u wake up this is what u want. no food no water or anything in u at all. Sugar is a carb, you should be more specific like saying specifying “good” and “bad” carbs, for example bread is a carb, white bread is considered a bad carb but whole bread (wheat, oat, 12 grain, or rye) is a good carb. Also most fruits (because its natural sugar) are good carbs as well as potatoes and many types of beans. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/29 "2009-10-16T11:23:07Z")
> [@New VW R32](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-vw-r32/24536/21): > > Sugar is a carb, you should be more specific like saying specifying “good” and “bad” carbs, for example bread is a carb, white bread is considered a bad carb but whole bread (wheat, oat, 12 grain, or rye) is a good carb. Also most fruits (because its natural sugar) are good carbs as well as potatoes and many types of beans. read down and notice i made a mistake. carbs and fats and i dont care wtf kind of carb it is, either way if u are cutting, dont eat them with fats. ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/30 "2009-10-16T11:40:39Z")
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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/31 "2009-10-16T11:48:10Z")
> [@Check out the new Ford 500, errr Ford Taurus](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-out-the-new-ford-500-errr-ford-taurus/24546/5): > > Ok, let me try this again. Please critique this proposed diet: > > 5:30 - 1 scoop protein, 1 apple > 6:30 - workout > 7:45 - 2 scoops protein, 50g dextrose (right after workout) > 10:00 - protein bar (has some sugar and fat, should probably replaced with something better, open for suggestions) > noon - 3 chicken breasts, 2 potatoes… > 3:00 - 4 eggs > 6:00 - 2-cans of tuna, mayo > 10:00 - 1 scoop protein, 1.5 tbsp natural peanut butter anyway u can more ur workout to later in the day? ---
**Author:** ![indy440](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@indy440](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/indy440)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/32 "2009-10-16T12:00:20Z")
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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/33 "2009-10-16T12:03:01Z")
Well, to start, your post workout dextrose is garbage…ask any of the top bodybuilding nutritionists and they will tell you that solid food sources are fine, and preferred. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/34 "2009-10-16T12:05:41Z")
Here, take a look at my diet. The overall caloric intake may or may not work for you, but the percentages will. Throw in some BCAA’s post workout, and between meals and you’ll be good to go. Normal days Protein: 210 Carbs: 340 Fats: 80 On offdays use the following totals Protein: 210 Carbs: 280 Fats: 75 Macronutrient Timing Total Meals: 4-6 Protein: spread your protein intake evenly over all your meals (35-45g/meal) Carbohydrate: -approx 15% of total carbs at breakfast (50g on normal days, 40g on off days) -approx 25% of carbs preworkout (85g on normal days, 70g on off days) -approx 25% of carbs post workout (85g on normal days, 70g on off days) -The remaining 35% (120g on normal days, 100g on off days) of your carbohydrate intake should be spread out relatively evenly over the rest of your remaining meals. On days when you workout in the morning after breakfast use the following breakdown -25% of daily carbs at breakfast (85g on normal days, 70g on off days) -30% of daily carbs post workout (100g on normal days, 85g on off days) -45% of carbs spread throughout the rest of the day (155g on normal days, 125g on off days ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/35 "2009-10-16T12:08:17Z")
Oh, get a couple servings of veggies a day too. Remember, the macro numbers mean MUCH MORE than the actual source that they come from. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604/36 "2009-10-16T20:47:48Z")
Shredding and bulking is like near impossible. Bulk up? Eat protein (seafood, chix, eggs, milk, tuna, etc.) and eliminate extra sugar/fat. Live in the gym. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diet-and-workout-help/247604.md?page=1)