# different gauge clusters **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [April 15, 2007, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580 "2007-04-15T14:11:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![reds14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@reds14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reds14)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/1 "2007-04-15T14:11:44Z")
i own a 1995 s14 zenki and i want to change my gauges to white face, i currently have black. i purchased a set of jdm s14 kouki gauges thinking they might work. but they only use 3 plugs on the back instead of the 4 plugs my cluster uses. does anyone know if the jdm s14 zenki uses 3 plugs on the back of the gauge cluster. i want jdm becasue of the 7000 rpm redline , and the fact that my car has an sr… kinda picky i know. any help would be great ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/2 "2007-04-16T04:35:30Z")
pull the clear plastic cover from the cluster, then the needles, then the couple screws, then the guage faces and put the white guage faces on your zenki cluster, Assuming they are the same shape… I am also looking for a white face guage cluster… zenki anyone? ---
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/3 "2007-04-16T04:56:07Z")
umm dont pull the needles, chances are you’ll fuck up the mechanism. ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/4 "2007-04-16T05:27:56Z")
> [@Make it so noobs have to post one post in newbie section ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/make-it-so-noobs-have-to-post-one-post-in-newbie-section/12074/35): > > umm dont pull the needles, chances are you’ll fuck up the mechanism. needles do not slide off? speaking from experience from a MK3 supra… not an S14… ---
**Author:** ![nissanpower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce7236/32.png) [@nissanpower](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nissanpower)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/5 "2007-04-16T14:50:31Z")
the white faces are different shape and the mechanisims are way different. thought about that one already… i just need to know if 95 jdm white faces use 4 plugs… 3 white plugs and one black plug, if anyone knows it would be greatly appreciated. thanks for your answers so far. ---
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/6 "2007-04-16T19:00:12Z")
I fucked up THREE speedos by pulling needles… these are S13… I tried to do it gently even i mean very very smoothly and gently but nope… ---
**Author:** ![KoukiS14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/koukis14/32/5522_2.png) [@KoukiS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KoukiS14)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/7 "2007-04-17T07:26:08Z")
YOu need the plugs to make the kouki cluster work. If you dont have them you are SOL. I have a kouki cluster as well and no plugs. I also took them apart to see if they can be swapped and it wont work without some major modifications. Youll have to find some plugs -it seems like its the only way. ---
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/8 "2007-04-17T07:42:59Z")
Sort of off topic but, I am wondering, I want to tap into the ECU speed wire, anyone know for an s13 speedo (if i want to do testing of a speedo while still retaining the stock cluster and speedo inside). Essentially I want to have the cluster and speedo in dash untouched, while at the same time tapping into s13’s KA ECU (yellow wire?) and on the side testing a different speedo. Would that work (I would assume duh, yes, but…). I need this to fix/adjust and modify a bunch of speedos I have… ---
**Author:** ![reds14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@reds14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reds14)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/different-gauge-clusters/105580/9 "2007-04-17T10:33:56Z")
Koukis14, do you know for a fact this will work, is the wiring for the 2 cars similar? if anyone has a wiring diagram for a 1997 jdm kouki silvia that has wire colours and locations that i could take a look at could you please pm me… i also need a diagram for a 95 canadian zenki thanks