# Digital Speedometer Mileage

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 7, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894 "2009-12-07T20:48:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/21 "2009-12-08T14:21:31Z")

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> [@AlpineSkiier"](#):
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> So the general concensus in here is that nobody knows what they are talking about.

Pretty much.

Let’s break it down:

My interior was once all blue/red (after doing an LED conversion). I am slowly demodding my car. I have sold my blue window switches, blue climate control, and blue hazard/defroster buttons. Now my speedometer is the only thing left that is blue/red. I want to sell it for profit, and use part of that profit to get a new speedometer which matches the stock lighting in the car. I can’t find one with similar mileage, which is why I posed the question. Seems like it’s doable with paperwork and a cooperating dealership. Problem solved.

My speedometer is not broken, not burned out, etc. etc. It just doesn’t match the rest of my car. To each his own, but I am big on things matching, etc.

Thank you those who posted saying it’s legally doable. I appreciate the help.

LED’ed interior:

The stock lighting is white/green (hard to see in this pic):

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**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/22 "2009-12-08T16:08:12Z")

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> [@Syracuse Street Racers? track day](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/syracuse-street-racers-track-day/26819/13):
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> Altering a vehicle’s mileage in any way is a federal offense IIRC, the owner of BUL Auto on Fuller Road got nailed for it a few years back I remember.

he is not altering a vehicles mileage, he is altering the gauge to read the proper mileage. I would think that this is different but sounds like more hassle than its worth

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/23 "2009-12-08T16:49:13Z")

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ya cant roll back odo legally ,what needs to be done is go to dmv with proof and they can enter a odo discrepancy form .doesent lower mileage but thats the only way it can be done legally

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/24 "2009-12-08T16:52:43Z")

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> [@TW . 1991 Caprice Wagon .........](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-1991-caprice-wagon/27001/3):
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> ya cant roll back odo legally ,what needs to be done is go to dmv with proof and they can enter a odo discrepancy form .doesent lower mileage but thats the only way it can be done legally

sorry john… its been done in cases where the cluster has failed in some way/shape or form. the body control module on some chryslers run through the cluster which requires they be replaced… a used or new cluster is sourced and the proper mileage programmed in. 100% legal.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/25 "2009-12-08T16:55:02Z")

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sorry meant to say exc in those cases ,but the do it yourselfer cant legally do it esp on a car of that vintage seein as there is no mileage counter stored in the comp that can be read by a scanner thats generic

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/26 "2009-12-08T16:55:18Z")

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yeah you definitely still need a form from DMV to be totaly legal, comes with a sticker for the car too.

At least that’s what happened with my car.

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/Project%20318/DSC07311.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/Project%20318/DSC07311.jpg)

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/Project%20318/DSC07312.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/Project%20318/DSC07312.jpg)

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/27 "2009-12-08T16:55:56Z")

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besides ,your talkin to someone who does a g/m cluster almost daily so im still moreso in the know than u are lololo

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/28 "2009-12-08T16:56:09Z")

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> [@Big Rims + Small Block = This at the track](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-rims-small-block-this-at-the-track/27004/10):
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> sorry meant to say exc in those cases ,but the do it yourselfer cant legally do it esp on a car of that vintage seein as there is no mileage counter stored in the comp that can be read by a scanner thats generic

correct. it needs to be done by a certified shop and all documented properly.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/29 "2009-12-08T16:56:43Z")

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> [@F/S Dsm & Mr2 parts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-s-dsm-mr2-parts/26774/7):
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> no you definitely still need a form from DMV to be totaly legal, comes with a sticker for the car too.
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> At least that’s what happened with my car.

there is a paper trail that followes the car and its on carfax as a odo discrepancy

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/30 "2009-12-08T16:58:57Z")

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> [@F/S Dsm & Mr2 parts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-s-dsm-mr2-parts/26774/7):
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> yeah you definitely still need a form from DMV to be totaly legal, comes with a sticker for the car too.
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> At least that’s what happened with my car.
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> ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/Project%20318/DSC07311.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/c/4ce4c8285de86868aa68257400b7a376d470e09d.jpeg)
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> ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/Project%20318/DSC07312.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/a/5aa9f75c7617a8b145ad7789236af0dfecf1cec4.jpeg)

this is only if the new cluster can not be programmed to reflect the previous mileage. if the correct “actual” mileage is portrayed properly on the replaced cluster then a discrepancy form does not need to be filed.

EDIT:!!! however when purchasing a NEW cluster the dealership must account for the used one and forms filed in triplicate as to why a new cluster was sourced and what is being done with the damaged unit.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/31 "2009-12-08T17:01:43Z")

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my jetta has mad low miles

![http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9017/img1932f.jpg](http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9017/img1932f.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/32 "2009-12-08T17:03:57Z")

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> [@talk about a punch in the stomach](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-a-punch-in-the-stomach/26974/49):
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> my jetta has mad low miles

damn that jetta is clean… wish i had the coin to buy it off u.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/33 "2009-12-08T17:11:35Z")

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> [@Favorite Family Guy clips..](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/favorite-family-guy-clips/26978/13):
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> damn that jetta is clean… wish i had the coin to buy it off u.

who says its for sale?

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/34 "2009-12-08T17:12:45Z")

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yeah, the 74 year old woman who owned my car said it ‘read too slow’, it was noted on 6 different service orders before they just replaced it :rofl

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/35 "2009-12-08T17:12:57Z")

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> [@WNY SOLO Novice school](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wny-solo-novice-school/26610/83):
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> who says its for sale?

no one, but everything has its price. just sayin i wish i had the right scratch in my pocket to make it mine. thats all.

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**Author:** ![big\_red](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_red/32/6328_2.png) [@big\_red](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/big_red)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/36 "2009-12-08T17:18:04Z")

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> [@Newman's 1986 BMW 326rb build thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newmans-1986-bmw-326rb-build-thread/22123/911):
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> no one, but everything has its price. just sayin i wish i had the right scratch in my pocket to make it mine. thats all.

haha just bustin yer stones kid

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/37 "2009-12-08T17:28:43Z")

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> [@Favorite Family Guy clips..](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/favorite-family-guy-clips/26978/14):
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> haha just bustin yer stones kid

s’all good.

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/38 "2009-12-08T22:32:37Z")

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Good info Benny/John. I’ll make sure to do everything through DMV if need be, etc. if I even go through with this (or if I rip out the LED’s).

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**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/39 "2009-12-09T04:23:37Z")

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It can be done but you need proper documentation…

Has that been said yet?

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/digital-speedometer-mileage/248894/40 "2009-12-09T09:32:06Z")

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Nope. Thanks Johawk. :rofl

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