# dilemna........

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [May 24, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000 "2008-05-24T19:38:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/81 "2008-05-25T12:13:18Z")

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okay people.

THE ONLY REASON I AM TRYING TO BE ESTABLISH THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION. there is no underlying factors coming into play.

I just want to know if telling them while they are on vacation is better or worse than waiting. and so far its pointing to waiting.

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/82 "2008-05-25T12:15:03Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob](#):
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> okay people.
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> THE ONLY REASON I AM TRYING TO BE ESTABLISH THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION. there is no underlying factors coming into play.
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> I just want to know if telling them while they are on vacation is better or worse than waiting. and so far its pointing to waiting.

I just told you. Wait. Then explain that you didnt want to ruin their vacation. I missed something, did you have permission to take the car?

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**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/83 "2008-05-25T12:15:16Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> You mean, like a money shift?

dude, i mis-shifted twice all day with no problems. after my final mis-shift i drove almost 2 full laps and THEN i shifted 3rd to 2nd(not mis-shifted) when the metal-to-metal sound occured. now why would that be?

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**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/84 "2008-05-25T12:16:18Z")

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> [@ShiftDead](#):
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> I just told you. Wait. Then explain that you didnt want to ruin their vacation. I missed something, did you have permission to take the car?

yes. and that wasnt in reference to you, it was directed at MPD and coldaccord

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/85 "2008-05-25T12:29:20Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob](#):
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> yes. and that wasnt in reference to you, it was directed at MPD and coldaccord

Solid, if you had permission you have nothing to worry about. Shit happens and thats the truth.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/86 "2008-05-25T12:33:25Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob](#):
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> dude, i mis-shifted twice all day with no problems. after my final mis-shift i drove almost 2 full laps and THEN i shifted 3rd to 2nd(not mis-shifted) when the metal-to-metal sound occured. now why would that be?

Miss shift twice, damage parts, keep driving, damaged parts fatigue, eventually fall apart, dropping the damaged valves. I bet leakdown will show that you have engine problems due to Type II over-revs.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/87 "2008-05-25T12:34:38Z")

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This will make fantastic holiday dinner table conversation.

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**Author:** ![ShiftDead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shiftdead/32/7508_2.png) [@ShiftDead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShiftDead)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/88 "2008-05-25T12:40:50Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Miss shift twice, damage parts, keep driving, damaged parts fatigue, eventually fall apart, dropping the damaged valves. I bet leakdown will show that you have engine problems due to Type II over-revs.

Do you practice being a dick? HAHAHAHAHAHA I love you Mike =]

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/89 "2008-05-25T12:41:55Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> This will make fantastic holiday dinner table conversation.

lol.

I still vote tell em when they get home.

You should also have a much better idea of the damage bill by then.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/90 "2008-05-25T15:18:37Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> You mean, like a money shift?

Oh, shit, didn’t know he did that.

I did not miss shift ALL DAY!

i did slip off the brake a bit though from heel-toeing.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/91 "2008-05-25T15:20:02Z")

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Money shift, that’s an awesome term.

X…

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**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/92 "2008-05-25T15:25:52Z")

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I would start working on a plan to replace the motor

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**Author:** ![RedConquestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redconquesttsi/32/7326_2.png) [@RedConquestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedConquestTSi)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/93 "2008-05-25T15:32:36Z")

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I misshifted once yesterday, but it was a 1,2,5 shift instead.

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**Author:** ![slasky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slasky/32/7408_2.png) [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/94 "2008-05-25T15:36:27Z")

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I would wait for him to get home so that you don’t ruin his vacation. Is it still under warranty?  
It’s only an s2000; it’s not like you broke an expensive car like some kind of exotic.

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**Author:** ![Jim1234664](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim1234664/32/7438_2.png) [@Jim1234664](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jim1234664)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/95 "2008-05-25T16:00:27Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob](#):
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> blah blah blah, now why would that be?

wow seriously? obviously hitting 10k+ twice wasnt in the best interest of the motor

:wtf:

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**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/96 "2008-05-25T16:02:17Z")

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> [@slasky](#):
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> It’s only an s2000; it’s not like you broke an expensive car like some kind of exotic.

A replacement motor is probably close to half, if not more than what the car is worth in the condition it was in before the motor was blown.

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**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/97 "2008-05-25T16:16:41Z")

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> [@Xander](#):
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> Money shift, that’s an awesome term.
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> X…

the proper term is the “skunk shift”

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/98 "2008-05-25T16:22:14Z")

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> [@JDMR2](#):
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> the proper term is the “skunk shift”

QFT

Its in the NYSpeedtionary next to Dos’d

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/99 "2008-05-25T16:28:30Z")

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He told you to take the car out, not take it to the track and blow the motor, maybe a cruise around the neighborhood?

i would have the car ready to have a new motor put in, pay for everything yourself, before they come home, say your sorry and all that shit and tell them when they come home, but not to worry because everything is getting fixed out of your wallet, dont make your parents pay because you fucked up. youll show them that you made a mistake, but that you are responsible enough to fix the problem.

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**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dilemna/49000/100 "2008-05-25T16:48:32Z")

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Avg price I see for a F20 is about $7500. Plus anything else it may need. I also doubt finding one somewhat relatively soon will be that easy.

I also think his dad allowed him to take it to the track. He doesn’t seem like a stupid guy.

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