# Disk wave wave disk engine

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 19, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054 "2012-09-19T08:42:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054/1 "2012-09-19T08:42:27Z")

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> The new engine is a “disk wave” chamber instead of a piston in a cylinder. The disk wave principle uses a novel internal system to generate shock waves by igniting a compressed air and fuel mixture that propels rotors. No valve gear, pistons, connecting rods or crankshaft.

![http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Disk-Wave-Engine-Layout.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/c/5cdf6250bbe1bed27084d38407e528d1df6e222f.jpeg)

> **[A New Engine Is Coming](https://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2012/08/20/a-new-engine-is-coming/)**
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> Norbert Mueller at Michigan State University plans to have a new engine out this year using 60% of the fuel for propulsion improving efficiency by 3 to 4 fold.

At first I thought they were reversing a scroll compressor, which might be pretty cool. But here, it doesn’t look like the expanding gasses have anything to do work on, and if these shock waves are somehow moving the vanes along without gasses expanding, how long until they fail? If it fires on every chamber, the vanes will be stressed in reversing directions on every hit; the aft vane sees a force counter clockwise when the chamber ahead is detonated, then the chamber immediately behind it blows it clockwise again lol. Lastly, it relies on a compressed fuel air mix - I bet it takes nearly as much energy to compress the fuel air mix as it can actually generate.

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054/2 "2012-09-19T08:56:44Z")

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That is freaking sweet. Kind of reminds me of a scramjet mixed with a Wankel.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054/3 "2012-09-19T09:40:00Z")

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In for results

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054/4 "2012-09-20T08:19:26Z")

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Hello Mazda, we have something for you to try…

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/disk-wave-wave-disk-engine/226054/5 "2012-09-20T08:41:51Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Hello Mazda, we have something for you to try…

lol