# DIY alignment? Camber gauge?

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [December 14, 2007, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271 "2007-12-14T08:14:59Z")
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### Author: ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/1 "2007-12-14T08:14:59Z")

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Does anyone do their own alignments? What do you use to measure camber? I was thinking about getting a nice camber gauge, something more accurate and easier to use than using a plumb and measuring.

They have a rebco one at summit that attaches right to spindle. Havent seen any reviews on it or anything, not much info on thier website either.

Maybe I will just get a angle finder and straightedge.

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### Author: ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/2 "2007-12-14T08:22:06Z")

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Any reason why you want to do your own alignments?

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### Author: ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/3 "2007-12-14T08:43:18Z")

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I will look when I get home, turbo mag or sport compact did a review on one, like a month ago.

Jeller

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### Author: ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/4 "2007-12-14T08:55:32Z")

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I was going to say use a digital angle finder and a straight edge across the rim’s lip. But all the angle finders are only accurate to .5\* and cost $100-$200.

Until I found this… [http://www.wixey.com/anglegauge/index.html](http://www.wixey.com/anglegauge/index.html)

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### Author: ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/5 "2007-12-14T09:03:45Z")

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> [@Jagermeister](#):
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> Any reason why you want to do your own alignments?

It’s Poopra, what do you think the answer is…?

X…

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### Author: ![StairSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stairsrt4/32/7585_2.png) [@StairSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StairSRT4)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/6 "2007-12-14T09:35:06Z")

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Ask Sureshot007…I think he does his own alignments.

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### Author: ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/7 "2007-12-14T09:41:59Z")

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I found it for ya:

[http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711\_sccp\_fastrax\_camber\_caster\_gauge/index.html](http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_fastrax_camber_caster_gauge/index.html)

![http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_01_z_+fastrax_camber_caster_gauge+on_rim.jpg](http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0711_sccp_01_z_+fastrax_camber_caster_gauge+on_rim.jpg)

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### Author: ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/8 "2007-12-14T10:05:33Z")

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I do my camber using trig 🙂

Make sure the both tires are inflated to the same pressure, and you are on level ground with the wheels straight forward. Using a ruler, and something that will sit flat on the ground and taller than the wheel (like a large t-square), and a scientific caculator. Place t-square on ground next to wheel. Pick a spot to measure from - I usually use the lip of the wheel. Measure the distance from the t-square to the bottom lip (a), and to the top lip (b), and the distance between the two points on the t-square ©.

theta = arc tan [(b-a)/c]  
on scientific calculators, arc tan may look like tan^-1

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### Author: ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/9 "2007-12-14T10:33:38Z")

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I think this fastrax tool would be easier to use, and more accurate. I think it will cost me about as much as one alignment done at shop. I got charged 90 bucks for a rear wheel alignment last time I went in.

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### Author: ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/10 "2007-12-14T12:44:34Z")

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I have the smart camber tool which seems to work great. A buddy of mine has been aligning their GT3 and IT cars with one for years with great results. He even compared their alignment to a new snap-on machine, measured by a snap-on factory rep (from what I was told) and its was dead on.

I measure toe with strings.

Dan

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### Author: ![BrockwayMT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brockwaymt/32/5060_2.png) [@BrockwayMT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BrockwayMT)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/11 "2007-12-14T13:17:23Z")

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Here’s how to do toe-in.

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/bigdannyk66/alignment2.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/bigdannyk66/alignment2.jpg)

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/bigdannyk66/alignment.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/bigdannyk66/alignment.jpg)

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### Author: ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/12 "2007-12-14T14:05:39Z")

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Here is a quick look at my setup. I stole this from another forum that I post on…

After waiting weeks for Racer Parts Wholesale to replace my damaged in shipping Camber gauge I was finally able to set things up and get a decent reading of the rear alignment.

Here are a few shots of the “tools” , two of which I got at Walmart for 4.62 each ;).

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/DSCF0525.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/DSCF0525.sized.jpg)

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/DSCF0524.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/DSCF0524.sized.jpg)

Here is the setup I am using to measure toe. Basically just some 1/2" conduit jack stands, and fishing line. Eventually I would like to attach this to the car so I can easily roll the car between adjustments. For now I was just doing the rear so it should be fine.

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/strings_front.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/strings_front.sized.jpg)

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/strings_rear.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/strings_rear.sized.jpg)

and the toe gauge in use (yes a tape measure would work here, but I thought to keep things more repeatable I would buy this)

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/toe_gauge_1.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/toe_gauge_1.sized.jpg)

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/toe_gauge_ruler.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/toe_gauge_ruler.sized.jpg)

Finally the camber gauge…

![http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/camber_gauge.sized.jpg](http://clubhousecustoms.com/gallery/albums/album03/camber_gauge.sized.jpg)

I really need to double check the level of my floor before I make any changes to the camber but I think Im pretty close, probably within 0.1-0.2 degrees.

RR  
0 toe  
-0.4 deg neg camber

LR 1/16" toe  
0 deg camber

So I have a little shimming to do but nothing major. Im pretty happy considering I cut the rear axle beam up and narrowed it 2" overall and welded the hub plates back on.

More to come, Im sure the front will be much more intersting.

I really need to get the scales back and cornerweight the car before I do much more alignment work.

Dan

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### Author: ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/13 "2007-12-14T15:10:58Z")

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> [@sureshot007](#):
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> I do my camber using trig 🙂
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> Make sure the both tires are inflated to the same pressure, and you are on level ground with the wheels straight forward. Using a ruler, and something that will sit flat on the ground and taller than the wheel (like a large t-square), and a scientific caculator. Place t-square on ground next to wheel. Pick a spot to measure from - I usually use the lip of the wheel. Measure the distance from the t-square to the bottom lip (a), and to the top lip (b), and the distance between the two points on the t-square (c).
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> theta = arc tan [(b-a)/c]  
> on scientific calculators, arc tan may look like tan^-1

+1 :tup: It takes longer, but can be doen. Idid it almost the same way.

Juicedz4 has a nice setup, you can get those a few places, I have some SCCA and Racer Mags with ads for similar equipment, they aren’t that expensive if you plan on doing your own alignments regularly.

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### Author: ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diy-alignment-camber-gauge/40271/14 "2007-12-14T19:06:19Z")

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true^^ thats my next investment
