# Do Students Deserve a Bailout? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 11, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012 "2009-06-11T13:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/101 "2009-06-12T08:34:22Z")
> [@MOBOOST4U](#): > > Well thats so much of it as well. > > If your parents can outright afford these $20k a year schools, more power to them… but I absolutely hate it when I see friends of mine (who I considered greatly smarter than me in HS) paying loans out the ass at St. Bonaventure for 4 years only to obtain a communications degree and ending up working at Geico. > > Another thing people neglected to mention is the old “I just got my Medical Degree and have $150k in loans… time to file for bankruptcy” scheme lol. I know thats harder to do now-a-days per new bankruptcy laws but still lol, what about that form of “bailout” lol. right, but do these kids with rich parents deserve a Duke eduction over the NC State students who can’t afford it? That is another discussion for another day though…please don’t reply. Just food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/102 "2009-06-12T08:34:28Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > You do however need a 4 year degree to move an internet forum without it being down for 2-3 days. :lol: > > Please don’t ban me. 😉 :mamoru: Weird I run into this all the time at work I don’t have a 4 year… I would also not have had 2-3 days of downtime… ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/103 "2009-06-12T08:35:37Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > You do however need a 4 year degree to move an internet forum without it being down for 2-3 days. :lol: > > Please don’t ban me. 😉 that is because I clicked the button, got real busy and didn’t even know that the DNS switched until I got a text saying “where is the board” I am totally taking your signature away however. I am not an IT guy. I am a programmer. I can write a php script to launch a nuke, but I can not build or bring the server online that runs the program. I have only ever done two start to finish LAMP builds, and they were not very well tweaked. ☹ In reality I am a sales/distribution professional, but I play a programmer on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/104 "2009-06-12T08:36:19Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > I do not have a 4 year degree, I just got a 10K raise. I will be getting my degree and taking a totally diferent position in two years as part of that deal, but it is possible to get a job sans degree. You just have to be a standout employee if you want to beat the guys that have one. I work 2x harder than anyone else in my office, and it does not go unnoticed. Exceptions to every rule man. Get your degree though, and watch the doors FLY open. A hard working employee with a degree \> A hard working employee again though, that’s not the point of this thread. Yes you can do well without a degree, but HAVING A DEGREE OPENS MORE DOORS. Just because there are a bunch of lazy people in your office, doesn’t mean shit. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/105 "2009-06-12T08:37:35Z")
^ Heh… I understand man. I’ve been a programmed long enough to know what happens when you get roped into doing IT stuff. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/106 "2009-06-12T08:38:51Z")
> [@TradersBASE](#): > > WTF…you calling me old? 1976 here SON! 😛 > > I have said this for years…I feel if you can’t afford to put your kid through college you didn’t plan properly. It’s a planning and responsibility thing IMO. > Same with retirement for that matter…I don’t have sympathy for those that were near retirement and kept their nest egg in high risk shit. Protect ya neck yo! WU TANG My plan is to have a better job in 17 years 😃 My pops paid for my degree, and I hope to help my kids too. (as does he) Hes the one that had to join the navy, get the GI money, go to school, then end up in trade. He wanted better for me. Its paternal instinct to try and make it better for your kids. Unfortunately, not all parents have paternal instinct or any sort of vision beyond this months CC payment and available limits. ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/107 "2009-06-12T08:43:46Z")
not to mention the fact that this would be a huge slap in the face to the people who did do the right thing and saved for their kid’s college education. they save $20k or whatever amount to contribute toward the bill and pay it out, meanwhile, another set of parents saved nothing, borrowed the whole amount, and gets the loans wiped out? that would go well. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/108 "2009-06-12T08:44:13Z")
This thread is retarded. People’s own irresponsible decisions are what put them in this boat, I have as little sympathy for them as I do for the foreclosure market. If you have a ton of loans, you either barrowed irresponsibly, or went to a very expensive school with no assistance. Now why did you do that? Did you just go to a school because you wanted to without thinking how you were going to pay for it? Too fucking bad. It is simple, work hard, there are lots of options. Get a job, pay for it the old fashioned way. Get scholarships, hard work returns large dividends. Or how about this, go to a less expensive college, live at home, don’t go on spring break, don’t drive a nice car. EVERY person that I talk to with huge gripes about their student loan issues has put themselves in that situation… or, they are working on paying them off. The sense of entitlement is disgusting. If you don’t make any money, you can write of the interest. You can defer the loans. Why should you end up getting a free ride at the expense of people that actually paid for it? You shouldn’t. Are there people that have to work harder to figure it out, or make sacrafices? Yes, but that is life. There are people that figure out how to do it all the time, and just because the vast majority of us are lazy and feel entitled, doesn’t mean that we should try and level the playing field. ---
**Author:** ![njf126](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/67e7ee/32.png) [@njf126](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/njf126)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/109 "2009-06-12T09:18:18Z")
for the record my opinion has changed and i agree this happening would be retarded but if they considered it i would at least feel like the people i vote for are at least taking a look at my interests because SOME of us under 25 do actually vote ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/110 "2009-06-12T09:22:15Z")
Much more would be accomplished if businesses had the money to hire students but they are evil and their money should be taken away from them. Well I mean they are evil but you still need them to make a living. Ok Now I am done.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/111 "2009-06-12T09:25:03Z")
> [@walter](#): > > This thread is retarded. > > People’s own irresponsible decisions are what put them in this boat, I have as little sympathy for them as I do for the foreclosure market. > > If you have a ton of loans, you either barrowed irresponsibly, or went to a very expensive school with no assistance. Now why did you do that? Did you just go to a school because you wanted to without thinking how you were going to pay for it? Too fucking bad. It is simple, work hard, there are lots of options. Get a job, pay for it the old fashioned way. Get scholarships, hard work returns large dividends. Or how about this, go to a less expensive college, live at home, don’t go on spring break, don’t drive a nice car. > > EVERY person that I talk to with huge gripes about their student loan issues has put themselves in that situation… or, they are working on paying them off. > > The sense of entitlement is disgusting. If you don’t make any money, you can write of the interest. You can defer the loans. Why should you end up getting a free ride at the expense of people that actually paid for it? You shouldn’t. > > Are there people that have to work harder to figure it out, or make sacrafices? Yes, but that is life. There are people that figure out how to do it all the time, and just because the vast majority of us are lazy and feel entitled, doesn’t mean that we should try and level the playing field. :word: This is also why I didn’t vote for Obama, I knew this would happen ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/112 "2009-06-12T09:29:11Z")
WAT Obama didn’t propose, endorse, or acknowledge this. Just another blogger pipe dream. It’s not happening. ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/113 "2009-06-12T09:31:57Z")
> [@slow84ta](#): > > :word: > > This is also why I didn’t vote for Obama, I knew this would happen riiiiiiiiiiiggghhhttt. this was his idea. : sarcasm : :banghead: (not supporting him, just saying…) ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/114 "2009-06-12T09:33:11Z")
> [@slow84ta](#): > > This is also why I didn’t vote for Obama, I knew this would happen :tup: baby! As much as I would accept this with open arms, I have no problem admitting its downright wrong. I do feel bad for those who did all the right things and at the end of the day, still cant find a job. But lets be honest, there are other options… its almost impossible for someone to just literally not be able to pay their loans… go work at BK until you find a proper job, do landscaping, work 70 hours a week and live in shack… you’ll eventually wind up on your feet. > [@Joe](#): > > WAT > Obama didn’t propose, endorse, or acknowledge this. Just another blogger pipe dream. It’s not happening. Obviously hes not saying that… Its just the idea that this group has the nerve to even propose this based on the amount of downright unreasonable handouts that have been given… that is sickening. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/115 "2009-06-12T09:33:45Z")
or dead. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/116 "2009-06-12T09:34:31Z")
Or addicted to blow ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/117 "2009-06-12T09:37:10Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > or dead. > [@tpgsr](#): > > Or addicted to blow All while obtaining a size 6 pooper… ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/118 "2009-06-12T09:39:24Z")
if you die you dont have to pay back your student loans though. why do we bailout the dead? they don’t even work. Lazy fucks. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/119 "2009-06-12T09:56:10Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > if you die you dont have to pay back your student loans though. why do we bailout the dead? they don’t even work. Lazy fucks. Ummm zombies are dead. They work. You guys are so ignorant to the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012/120 "2009-06-12T09:59:38Z")
Yeah, with their hands. If they had formal education they could use their own brains and not keep trying to take other people’s. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-students-deserve-a-bailout/69012.md?page=7)