# Do you think modding Honda Civics and Acura Integras is cool? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 23, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525 "2009-12-23T09:37:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/201 "2009-12-24T01:34:05Z")
I never thought i would see the day of so much honda hate on nyspeed. I guess if thats what you like go for it, not my cup of tea though. I will say though that my 5sp accord was the best DD i have ever owned. ---
**Author:** ![spinall4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@spinall4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spinall4)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/202 "2009-12-24T05:31:30Z")
> [@skylinez07](#): > > I say let them do what they want to do. Some people can’t afford a nicer RWD car due to either school, age, or lack of money. A Nissan 240sx and a Mazda Miata are deff a way to start(if your into imports) with a RWD car, do simple mods to them then work your way up. ugh i don’t care what drive a miata is you WILL NEVER CATCH ME or 50% of this board in one! just because its rwd doesnt make it a great platform… you can gimme a teg/civic all day to mod over a towncar/crownvic ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/203 "2009-12-24T05:50:49Z")
Lol, ok. I only work til 3 so I’m going to have to get more pissed people per hour (ppph) I took a class called Road Vehicle Dynamics in 2002. There was actually a few days when we talked about this disadvantages of FWD to RWD. Tires have a certain vector force that they can apply (a function of friction, normal force, temp, etc). Longitudinal forces always overcome lateral forces in tires. Since you’re trying to maximize lateral force in the steering wheels, it makes no sense to add longitudinal input to the tires, because it will always reorient the force vector. (This is a bad thing) I specifically recall his reasoning why FWD was BETTER: It’s simpler It makes sense for a street car to maximize the weight over the drive wheels. Then we went on to talk about weight transfer, tire loading and weight distibution of RWD race cars. Anyway, this was a PROFESSOR at UB telling us that FWD sucked. I THINK the class was MAE376… Lastly, I think racing sucks. I don’t like it. But you better believe those guys are doing everythng that they can to squeeze every last drop out of their cars, so while I don’t think it’s cool, I DO think it’s a legitimate argument to validate the superiority of one platform to another. ---
**Author:** ![spinall4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@spinall4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spinall4)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/204 "2009-12-24T06:04:34Z")
yea fwd sucks… Nurburgring times… 8:22 - Chevy Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo 8:42 - Lotus Exige 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/205 "2009-12-24T06:09:08Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Lol, ok. I only work til 3 so I’m going to have to get more pissed people per hour (ppph) > > I took a class called Road Vehicle Dynamics in 2002. > > There was actually a few days when we talked about this disadvantages of FWD to RWD. > > Tires have a certain vector force that they can apply (a function of friction, normal force, temp, etc). Longitudinal forces always overcome lateral forces in tires. Since you’re trying to maximize lateral force in the steering wheels, it makes no sense to add longitudinal input to the tires, because it will always reorient the force vector. (This is a bad thing) > > I specifically recall his reasoning why FWD was BETTER: > > It’s simpler > It makes sense for a street car to maximize the weight over the drive wheels. > > Then we went on to talk about weight transfer, tire loading and weight distibution of RWD race cars. > > Anyway, this was a PROFESSOR at UB telling us that FWD sucked. I THINK the class was MAE376… > > Lastly, I think racing sucks. I don’t like it. But you better believe those guys are doing everythng that they can to squeeze every last drop out of their cars, so while I don’t think it’s cool, I DO think it’s a legitimate argument to validate the superiority of one platform to another. That class rocked. Did the professor ever give you a rant about women? “Guys, I know it is really hard for serious M/E’s to get good looking women, but do not drop your standards. Do not think that you have to date drunk, ugly or fat chicks. I some how managed to find a nice beautiful girl to marry me, so you can do it too.” ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/206 "2009-12-24T06:14:38Z")
CTN why do you enjoy arguing with children/morons? If you’re bored at work, try sexually harassing women in your office. It’s much more enjoyable than this crap ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/207 "2009-12-24T06:16:54Z")
Because I can come in here and mess with people in between bouts of rendering and processing. Harassing the ladies in accounting would require email or walking. I’m not ready for that. ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/208 "2009-12-24T06:20:39Z")
But half of these people are illiterate white trash. It’s like shooting ducks in a barrel. At some point it ceases to be amusing (to me at least) ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/209 "2009-12-24T06:25:11Z")
True, but I feel like it’s been a while since the last time I created pointless controversy. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/210 "2009-12-24T06:32:31Z")
> [@vq30de](#): > > It’s like shooting ducks in a barrel. ¿que? ---
**Author:** ![vq30de](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9dc877/32.png) [@vq30de](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vq30de)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/211 "2009-12-24T06:34:58Z")
Not fish, ducks. ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/212 "2009-12-24T06:48:09Z")
> [@vq30de](#): > > Not fish, ducks. Quit trying to stand above the crowd and let the amusement roll. ---
**Author:** ![spinall4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@spinall4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spinall4)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/213 "2009-12-24T07:09:35Z")
> [@vq30de](#): > > But half of these people are illiterate white trash. It’s like shooting ducks in a barrel. At some point it ceases to be amusing (to me at least) what is it that you drive again? ---
**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/214 "2009-12-24T07:52:18Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > ridealongs imo always seem sketchy wether its fwd or rwd, i dont trust anyone driving but myself and a few other individuals and id trust them with a tricyle if i had to lolz I think the only redeeming quality of a 300whp honda is that it is SOOO sketchy most of the time. The fact that it seems way faster than it is, actually makes it a little bit of fun. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/215 "2009-12-24T08:41:51Z")
lol this thread is great. Everyone likes different things and chooses different platforms for more reasons than can be posted here. But in my opinion, FWD cars become “cool” when they start to beat-up on RWD / AWD cars, big V8’s and drivers with large egos. Toda’s car, Mr. Smith’s car, Kingsario’s car, etc. those cars were cool despite the obvious performance & technical limitations of the FWD platform because they simply put people in their place. That’s when FWD becomes cool. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![mindless](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mindless/32/7286_2.png) [@mindless](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mindless)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/216 "2009-12-24T08:59:08Z")
Am i wrong here, i though fwd was supposed to be more efficient? As far as like fuel mileage and use of power. Not that it matters in this thread really but just kind of made me think of it. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/217 "2009-12-24T09:01:01Z")
> [@mindless](#): > > Am i wrong here, i though fwd was supposed to be more efficient? As far as like fuel mileage and use of power. Not that it matters in this thread really but just kind of made me think of it. This is true, but not covered in the course, as it was strictly about hanfdling and chassis geometry. ---
**Author:** ![DokiZen6x](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dokizen6x/32/5386_2.png) [@DokiZen6x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DokiZen6x)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/218 "2009-12-24T09:05:36Z")
I own a Saturn. I am poor. My car is in NO way shape or form fast. I get ~40 mpg I do not rice my car. I do wish my car was rwd. (I want a Sky) ---
**Author:** ![slowa\_ek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowa_ek/32/5227_2.png) [@slowa\_ek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowa_ek)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/219 "2009-12-24T09:39:44Z")
i still like me a nice honda/acura. the main problem is the amount of ricing that goes on… there are still some cool honda owners that know what they are talking about. i would be happy with a b series gt30 clean build. but then again im a honda “fanboi” but everyone likes there own thing, so i guess its on the owners discretion. ---
**Author:** ![AndyB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@AndyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AndyB)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-think-modding-honda-civics-and-acura-integras-is-cool/77525/220 "2009-12-24T09:42:12Z")
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