# Do you trust the Federal Government?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [September 23, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402 "2008-09-23T20:35:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/21 "2008-09-24T12:16:54Z")
I remember Waco, and Ruby Ridge. Just because you wern’t a member of the cult, or family, doesn’t mean that you can’t see that if you don’t toe the .gov’s line, they will crush you just cause they can. Janet Reno took this country back 20 years when it comes to freedoms. Its all fun to point at people and say “better you than me” but when the po po is comming threw your front door cause your a member of an illegal street racing group, you will be on here crying.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/22 "2008-09-24T12:19:30Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> I feel you either trust them or you don’t.
> It’s like saying, “I trust Ted with my money but I don’t trust him with my girl friend.”
> THEN YOU DON’T TRUST HIM.
you are talking about 1 person.
I am talking about multiple people. A better analogy would be, do you trust your friends?
I trust some. I can count on Bill to hold my money, but I think Ted is fucking my girlfriend"
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/23 "2008-09-24T12:23:01Z")
Having worked on some :snky: things…I trust the government…but then again I don’t break the law…
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/24 "2008-09-24T12:30:11Z")
> [@n20junkie](#):
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> I remember Waco, and Ruby Ridge. Just because you wern’t a member of the cult, or family, doesn’t mean that you can’t see that if you don’t toe the .gov’s line, they will crush you just cause they can. Janet Reno took this country back 20 years when it comes to freedoms. Its all fun to point at people and say “better you than me” but when the po po is comming threw your front door cause your a member of an illegal street racing group, you will be on here crying.
Right. Because what Koresh did was toeing the line…
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/25 "2008-09-24T12:34:13Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> What? How did Waco make you lose faith in the government? Were you a branch davidian? :awdrifter: 😛
No, in fact I thought the people were a little strange BUT, what happened that day and over the entire ordeal was way, way, waaaay over the top.
It was the first time in US history that tanks were used to kill our own people.
There was a ton of other shit that I am not going to list right now.
And, yeah it happened shortly after Ruby Ridge.
And the same guy has blood on his hands from both, I forget his name right at the moment.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/26 "2008-09-24T12:59:08Z")
Ah. I guess I have a different memory of the events. Figures. I was 11. 😛
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/27 "2008-09-24T13:00:49Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> No, in fact I thought the people were a little strange BUT, what happened that day and over the entire ordeal was way, way, waaaay over the top.
> It was the first time in US history that tanks were used to kill our own people.
> There was a ton of other shit that I am not going to list right now.
> And, yeah it happened shortly after Ruby Ridge.
> And the same guy has blood on his hands from both, I forget his name right at the moment.
Tanks? They pumped in tear gas with them they didn’t fire shells at the building :lol:
No one died because of the tanks directly…
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/28 "2008-09-24T13:05:31Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> Tanks? They pumped in tear gas with them they didn’t fire shells at the building :lol:
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> No one died because of the tanks directly…
Is that what the Clinton News Network reported?
They also said Delta Force wasn’t there but later had to admit it.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/29 "2008-09-24T13:07:00Z")
idk I lived in Waco for a while and the network security program I was in interacted a lot with local law enforcement and other agencies and this came up before in after class conversations…
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### Author:  [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/30 "2008-09-24T19:17:53Z")
I trust the government as a whole, but there are some individuals who I do not trust at all and I think they are taking advantage.
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### Author:  [@maybe\_memories](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maybe_memories)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/31 "2008-09-24T19:56:07Z")
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. (Paraphrase of James Madison)
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/32 "2008-09-25T05:28:13Z")
The Fed has no respect or consideration for you. If they did, they would not blatantly lie to you or present misleading facts and condition you to approve of misguided policy as they so often do.
Whether you trust them is irrlevant. Because they do not need your trust of approval.
It works the same on smaller scales. In not-so-hypothetical communities where i have irrevocable authority the opinions of the masses or participants is irrelvant. I have the power to pursue my own ends without consequence, therefore, why would i really consider the opinion of the masses unless it benefitted me.
Because there is no accountability, there can be no trust.
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### Author:  [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-trust-the-federal-government/55402/33 "2008-09-26T05:48:55Z")
> [@bing](#):
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> Because there is no accountability, there can be no trust.
my thoughts exactly.
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