# Dodge stealth no fire!!!!!
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [January 16, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131 "2007-01-16T11:36:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/1 "2007-01-16T11:36:57Z")
I came out of school today to find my car dead, it turns over and over, but wont fire, I think it is a fuel pump related issue, cause it feels like it has no gas, I went and put a gallon of gas in it and nothin changed, Any Ideas ?
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/2 "2007-01-16T11:39:24Z")
> [@IKSHO89](#):
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> Any Ideas ?
Push it off a cliff.
Or grab a flashlight, crank it a bit, then pull a plug and look down in and see if it’s wet.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/3 "2007-01-16T11:43:57Z")
lol my beater saturn is doing the same thing
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### Author:  [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/4 "2007-01-16T11:44:46Z")
Thanks I’m gonna go with option 1, just kiddin I’m goning back to look at it, Ill try that thanks.
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### Author:  [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/5 "2007-01-16T11:45:43Z")
So was my friends accord, I dont remember how it happened or how it was fixed so I’m gonna hit him up.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/6 "2007-01-16T11:45:51Z")
can you hear the fuel pump prime when you turn the ignition from “off” to “on”? Not “start”. You should hear a whirring sound for about 2 seconds, if not, could be the fuel pump, or the fuel pump relay.
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### Author:  [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/7 "2007-01-16T11:47:21Z")
well I had someone listen for it and he said he didnt hear it so i assume its that, anybody ever buy a realy, Expensive ?
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/8 "2007-01-16T11:49:01Z")
relay’s are very cheap, the pump will be a bit more
before you go buying things, verify that the fuel pump is indeed not getting power. You can also jump the relay terminals too.
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### Author:  [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/9 "2007-01-16T11:53:39Z")
IDK how to jump the realy teminals but I doubt the pump is bad when I parked it is was running great and I have been having electrical probs, and it is a 91 with the majority of parts being OEM so I dont doubt a realy, and I’ll be sure to check everything, Im goning to look at it at 3:30.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/10 "2007-01-16T12:02:38Z")
Locate and remove the fuel pump relay.
Using the relay, and the following diagram, locate the terminals 30 and 87 on the relay **SOCKET**
Using a paperclip or a piece of wire jump socket terminal 30 to socket terminal 87. If the fuel pump primes, it’s the relay.
Here is a diagram of what’s going on in the relay
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Terminal 86 is grounded, when +12v is applied to terminal 85, it switches the connection from _30-\>87 **a** _ to _30-\>87_.
However, don’t be surprised if the relay you remove does not have a terminal 87a. You can replace it with either a 5 pin or 4 pin relay. If it is going to be used under the hood, ensure that you use a waterproof relay.
For more information on relays:
[http://www.teamrocs.com/technical/pages/relay\_basics.htm](http://www.teamrocs.com/technical/pages/relay_basics.htm)
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### Author:  [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/11 "2007-01-16T12:06:33Z")
Thanks, I’ll give it a shot.
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### Author:  [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/12 "2007-01-16T12:08:20Z")
> [@newman](#):
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> … on the relay **SOCKET** …
ROFL that you have to specify.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/13 "2007-01-16T12:08:40Z")
> [@IKSHO89](#):
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> Thanks, I’ll give it a shot.
This should work, even with the ignition in the off position.
But try it “on” if it fails to prime when “off”, just to be sure…
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/14 "2007-01-16T12:09:11Z")
> [@01AudiS4](#):
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> ROFL that you have to specify.
haha, well… you never know…
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### Author:  [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/15 "2007-01-16T12:09:55Z")
why did it not quote you?
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/16 "2007-01-16T12:13:25Z")
> [@01AudiS4](#):
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> why did it not quote you?
click edit, the first [in the /quote] tag is actually before the [/color] tag
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/17 "2007-01-16T12:23:17Z")
Face it, you might as well have a mod delete the for sale thread for this car.
You can’t post all your “need help now” questions on the same forum as your “for sale” threads about the same car. 🙂
Back on topic… it needs 3 things to run. Air, fuel, and spark. Get all three of those, even in the wrong mixture, and it will at a minimum run poorly.
Air: Not much could have happened to make it completely stop running. Lets assume you have air.
Spark: It’s colder now, wires have much more resistance. Your battery is also putting out much less power than when it was 40 outside. Remove a plug, put it back in the wire, ground it on the block, and crank it. Does it spark?
Fuel: Water in the gas and a frozen line? Fuel pump/relay problem? Blown fuse? You said you added a gallon of gas. Was it so low that you might have run it dry? Fuel pumps, especially old ones in abused cars, don’t like running dry and having the pickup suck air or all the crap that is probably in the bottom of your tank.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/18 "2007-01-16T12:34:16Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> Air: Not much could have happened to make it completely stop running. Lets assume you have air.
well, a MAFs failure would be one thing, though it will still start (it defaults to a preset voltage), just not well.
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/19 "2007-01-16T12:34:21Z")
spray some pyroil in the TB see if it will cough, that tells you its fuel related.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-stealth-no-fire/23131/20 "2007-01-16T12:36:53Z")
> [@newman](#):
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> well, a MAFs failure would be one thing, though it will still start (it defaults to a preset voltage), just not well.
Exactly. It’s not running at all, so I’m assuming it’s not air.
The fact that it happened today, on the coldest day we’ve had in a long time, makes me want to bet on iced up fuel line. Depends if the pump is kicking on or not.
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