# Dodge Viper ACR.... THE RING

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [August 28, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003 "2008-08-28T07:45:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/21 "2008-08-28T09:22:54Z")

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idk about you guys, but I think its bullshit that different drivers are used for each car… no two drivers are alike…  
I think that is the biggest variable, rather than the tires

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**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/22 "2008-08-28T09:25:43Z")

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> [@Firehawk853](#):
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> True but you are comparing a factory prepped race car (aka no radio) and race rubber with the ZR1 which I am sure has a Bose audio system and street tires so the average vette owner gets at least 10,000 miles out of the tires

But all I am trying to say is that if I were to go buy both cars from a stealership, the dodge would be faster out of the box. Yes I could go buy tires for the vette, lose my back seat or some other excuse and perhaps outrun the Viper, but that isn’t what is being compared here.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/23 "2008-08-28T09:33:45Z")

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> [@Firehawk853](#):
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> True but you are comparing a factory prepped race car (aka no radio) and race rubber with the ZR1 which I am sure has a Bose audio system and street tires so the average vette owner gets at least 10,000 miles out of the tires

that’s true but stil, in the end:

> [@OfficerK](#):
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> factory spec=factory spec

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**Author:** ![fbrendan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fbrendan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fbrendan)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/24 "2008-08-28T09:37:32Z")

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but, but, but…

:tup: :tup:

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/25 "2008-08-28T10:17:43Z")

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No excuses are needed, it is faster.  
I will be interested to see if GM makes r-comps an option next year so they can shave some time off their lap time.

Interesting article about the ACR’s downforce  
[http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=129907](http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=129907)

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/26 "2008-08-28T10:43:24Z")

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The Vid?

> **[2009 Dodge Viper ACR on the Nurburgring - Features - Motor Trend Video](http://www.motortrend.com/news/2009-dodge-viper-acr-nurburgring-record-video/)**
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> The 2009 Dodge Viper ACR runs a record-breaking 7:22 lap around the Nurburgring in this video brought to you by the automotive experts at Motor Trend.

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/27 "2008-08-28T12:36:35Z")

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> Knowing that the standard Viper has a top speed of just over 200 mph, the ACR’s struggle to top 165 mph makes it obvious that the big rear wing and front dive planes that are designed to plant it to the track in the turns are taking their toll on straight-line speed.

neat

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**Author:** ![HYBOOST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hyboost/32/5088_2.png) [@HYBOOST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HYBOOST)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/28 "2008-08-28T14:09:58Z")

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Don’t forget, the Viper is running a splitter that’s not allowed on the street. Not too sure how much more downforce that produces. Guess they are afraid if they hit someone, they’ll cut their feet off. I hate when that happens.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/29 "2008-08-28T14:17:51Z")

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> [@HYBOOST](#):
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> Don’t forget, the Viper is running a splitter that’s not allowed on the street. Not too sure how much more downforce that produces. Guess they are afraid if they hit someone, they’ll cut their feet off. I hate when that happens.

I think its because of the 5mph bumper laws.

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/30 "2008-08-28T14:54:43Z")

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> [@OfficerK](#):
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> But all I am trying to say is that if I were to go buy both cars from a stealership, the dodge would be faster out of the box. Yes I could go buy tires for the vette, **lose my back seat** or some other excuse and perhaps outrun the Viper, but that isn’t what is being compared here.

:meh2:

sorry had to be that guy 😃

+1 to different drivers = different results. Put both cars on race rubber, same driver, im willing to bet the vette will come out on top.

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**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/31 "2008-08-28T15:08:05Z")

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> [@Firehawk853](#):
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> True but you are comparing a factory prepped race car (aka no radio) and race rubber with the ZR1 which I am sure has a Bose audio system and street tires so the average vette owner gets at least 10,000 miles out of the tires

LOL, the car at the ring has a radio. You have to PURPOSELY order the ACR with the hardcore package- it normally comes with all of those items, and the car tested DID NOT have that delete list.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/32 "2008-08-28T15:18:14Z")

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> [@Final GTS](#):
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> LOL, the car at the ring has a radio. You have to PURPOSELY order the ACR with the hardcore package- it normally comes with all of those items, and the car tested DID NOT have that delete list.

No it didn’t according to the article

"According to the unofficial information provided by Motortrend, with the exception of the Racetech seat with a six-point harness, the ACRs (Dodge brought two vehicles to the ‘Ring) were factory stock and fitted with the no-cost option Hard Core package that sheds another 40 pounds with the elimination of the audio system, trunk carpet, rear cabin sound insulation, tire inflator kit, hood insulator, and steel battery cover. "

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**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/33 "2008-08-28T15:26:44Z")

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who cares the Viper is hot and it whooped ass. :tup: thats like me complaining i lost to a gt500…off the bottle of course.

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**Author:** ![almostBrett](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/almostbrett/32/5249_2.png) [@almostBrett](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/almostBrett)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/34 "2008-08-28T16:19:14Z")

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viper is nasty looking

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/35 "2008-08-28T16:21:40Z")

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HAHAHA I got negged for saying I want a Viper.

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/36 "2008-08-28T16:39:18Z")

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meh, exterior is sexy. interior leaves much to be desired. Wtf is with that bouncy retro 80’s shifter?

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/37 "2008-08-28T16:54:13Z")

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Hire a skinny driver, far more hardcore, they will probably even wear girl jeans :cough:newman:cough:

On the other hand, why is everyone saying “waaa, they ran on R-comps”. Why don’t the other competitors do the same if it is that simple to shave 30 seconds off your time?

I love that people are comparing ring times to their local autocross… :lol:

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/38 "2008-08-28T17:38:42Z")

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> [@walter](#):
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> I love that people are comparing ring times to their local autocross… :lol:

I was just comparing the grip increase of r-comps captain douchenozzle.

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**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/39 "2008-08-28T17:52:32Z")

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> [@Final GTS"](#):
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> Well, you heard it here first. I would have posted this yesterday, but I was too drunk in the casino, lol.
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> Its official, you ZR1 and GTR leghumpers better hand over the crown, the Viper ACR just slayed the ZR1 on the ring… without factory support, and WITNESSED by Motor Trend… by FOUR POINT THREE SECONDS. Final Lap Time was 7:22.1, and sits on top of the hill except for the group of extreme power/race cars.
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> More to come later… off to the Chelsea Proving grounds.

you’re still a tool, dan. doesn’t matter what a viper can do - you’re still a tool

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/40 "2008-08-28T18:12:30Z")

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OMG, THE CAR I LIKE THE MOST BEAT THE CAR YOU LIKE THE MOST AT THE NURBERGRING!!! HAHA YOU FUCKING LOSER!!! WHO THE HELL WOULD LIKE THE GT-R AFTER IT GOT BEAT BY A VIPER???

FUCKIN SKANKS

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