# Dodge Viper ACR.... THE RING **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 28, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003 "2008-08-28T07:45:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/161 "2008-09-04T19:41:37Z")
> [@fiend540](#): > > You have more excuses than the zr1 fanboys. The viper doesn’t win anything because it is an outdated pos compared to it’s competition. Sorry racing series have rules that all Other makes can win within but the gift from god viper can’t. lol, you really need to do a bit more research as to exactly “what” is running against “what” in these series. Ha, Just for shits, when I go to Canada next week to tune an ACTUAL RACE CAR, I am going to have him jot down what restrictions he has to run vs. his competition in the varius series he runs. ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/162 "2008-09-04T19:58:34Z")
> [@psychopjv](#): > > i’d buy a 1994 viper but not a 1994 corvette… x2 :pimp: > [@sobo](#): > > _But, keeping things stock, the viper is faster just because it has those important track features. There is no more argument to have, its in the facts_. :word: You can keep arguing all the what-ifs in every direction all day long, even until the next car comes along and beats out the ACR (and then it’d probably start again). But, at the end of the day the ACR has the crown. I just hope Dodge keeps the Viper in production. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/163 "2008-09-04T20:00:49Z")
> [@livin4hockey](#): > > x2 :pimp: > I just hope Dodge keeps the Viper in production. I doubt its going to be Dodge at this point. All we CAN hope for is the next owner being willing and able to pump the needed money into the platform. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/164 "2008-09-04T20:01:37Z")
Fuck 500hp at 2200rpm :jawdrop: ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/165 "2008-09-04T20:03:35Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > Fuck 500hp at 2200rpm :jawdrop: Thats Torque, not Horsepower. ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/166 "2008-09-04T20:04:08Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > LOL, I’ll take that approach right around the time the Corvette fanboys stop shitting up every Viper post known to man about either the ZO6 or the ZR1. Since that will never happen…:sword: LMAO…gee…do you think that just MAYBE it has to do with the way you word everything? Here’s your first post:“Its official, you ZR1 and GTR leghumpers better hand over the crown, the Viper ACR just slayed the ZR1 on the ring… without factory support, and WITNESSED by Motor Trend… by FOUR POINT THREE SECONDS. Final Lap Time was 7:22.1, and sits on top of the hill except for the group of extreme power/race cars” Shitting up a Viper thread? You bring this shit onto yourself. You simply can’t help it. Every time you post something, you SIMPLY HAVE to take a stab. You always do…every time. You wonder why so many people think you are a retard. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/167 "2008-09-04T20:06:42Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > Thats Torque, not Horsepower. LOL thats what i meant lol. I’m tired ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/168 "2008-09-04T20:08:53Z")
> [@joelster](#): > > LMAO…gee…do you think that just MAYBE it has to do with the way you word everything? > > Here’s your first post:“Its official, you ZR1 and GTR leghumpers better hand over the crown, the Viper ACR just slayed the ZR1 on the ring… without factory support, and WITNESSED by Motor Trend… by FOUR POINT THREE SECONDS. Final Lap Time was 7:22.1, and sits on top of the hill except for the group of extreme power/race cars” > > Shitting up a Viper thread? You bring this shit onto yourself. You simply can’t help it. Every time you post something, you SIMPLY HAVE to take a stab. You always do…every time. You wonder why so many people think you are a retard. Yeah, and if anyone else had posted that same thing, no one would have really cared. I have just given up on tip-toeing around the issue, and frankly, dont give a shit if some people think I am “taking a stab”. The Corvette fanboys have done it for years- I obviously cant beat them since there are so many people here aspiring to own one someday, so I may as well join them and at least incite somewhat of a rise out of everyone. What the fuck else do we all do? If it wasnt this thread, it would be another one about something else anyway… and probably just as pointless overall. In the end, you idiots look just as dumb arguing with me about it as I do for taking pot-shots at various points. I think its pretty obvious that none of you are going to change my mind. For fucks sake, I have more riding on this particular model of car than virtually any of you do on any other model of car- I wouldnt let myself back down even if I wanted to. To put it to a point… I’ll buy you a beer, but your still fucking wrong.:biglol: ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/169 "2008-09-05T02:47:36Z")
I almost spit out my morning orange juice at the snow comment!!! That was a good one. D ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/170 "2008-09-05T05:24:37Z")
Well when subaru launches its SVX2 which will have and 800hp twin turbo boxster engine and and awd system delivered from god, It will probably beat both records. Then again so will a bunch of other cars. Point: This whole Viper ACR vs Corvette Zr-1 thing will be relevant for about 1 year cause there will always be something faster. ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/171 "2008-09-05T07:28:03Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > lol, you really need to do a bit more research as to exactly “what” is running against “what” in these series. Ha, Just for shits, when I go to Canada next week to tune an ACTUAL RACE CAR, I am going to have him jot down what restrictions he has to run vs. his competition in the varius series he runs. You’re right, fia/imsa/aco just have it in for the viper and made the rules so everyone but dodge can win. Hell why bother even racing one then since it’s impossible to win. Maybe you and your customer should do some reasearch looking for a better platform to race like all of the other respectable teams have done. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/172 "2008-09-05T18:43:42Z")
> [@fiend540](#): > > You’re right, fia/imsa/aco just have it in for the viper and made the rules so everyone but dodge can win. Hell why bother even racing one then since it’s impossible to win. Maybe you and your customer should do some reasearch looking for a better platform to race like all of the other respectable teams have done. Gee Whiz… for a bad platform, it sure wins a lot of races elsewhere? 2001/2002 is where some of the restrictions on the Viper went into effect, notice how it disappears from the winners circle in some circuits, and then reappears as a regular winner on others? Kinda funny how a car wins for years on end, and then POOF gone, while still winning everywhere else, eh? Its called advertising dollars, and if you dont think that has an impact on what kind of restrictions are placed on various cars, you have your head up your ass further than I thought. If your top spending advertisers cant win anymore, you better restrict what keeps winning over and over, or they are going to walk… with all that money… elsewhere. Maybe there really ARE just a few that have it in for the Viper? Stranger things could happen, like you admitting that something is fishy. 2008 [British GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_GT_Championship) - won by J. Gornall & J. Barnes 2007 [British GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_GT_Championship) - won by B. Ellis & A. Mortimer 2007 Brazilian GT3 Championship 2007 24 hours of Nurburgring - SP8 Class, won by team Zakspeed 2006 [Australian GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_GT_Championship) - won by Greg Crick 2006 [Dutch Supercar Challenge](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dutch_Supercar_Challenge&action=edit&redlink=1) - won by Hans Ambaum 2006 [Formula D](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_D) - Championship - won by [Samuel Hubinette](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Hubinette) 2006 24 hours of Nurburgring - SP8 Class, won by team Zakspeed 2006 24 hours of Spa G3 - won by team Signa Racing 2005 [FFSA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFSA_GT_Championship) - won by O. Thevenin & P. Bornhauser 2005 24 hours of Nurburgring - A8 Class, won by P. Zakowski, R. Lechner & S. Bert 2004 [SCCA](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCCA) [Speed GT](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_World_Challenge) - Drivers Championship won by Tommy Archer 2004 [FFSA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFSA_GT_Championship) - won by P. Bornhauser 2004 [Formula D](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_D) - Championship, won by [Samuel Hubinette](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Hubinette) 2004 [Belcar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belcar) Championship 2004 Italian GT Championship 2004 1000 Miles of Brazil - won by S. Zonca, A Lancellotti & F. Gollin 2003 [FFSA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFSA_GT_Championship) - won by D. Defourny & P. Goueslard 2003 [Belcar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belcar) Championship - won by Team GLPK 2003 Italian GT Championship - won by Team Racing Box 2003 Swedish GTR Championship - won by Team Tre Q AB 2003 EuroSeries GT Championship - won by Team Michael Martin Racing System 2002 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT1 Drivers, won by Christophe Bouchut 2002 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT1 Teams, won by Larbre Competition 2002 [Belcar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belcar) Championship - won by Team GLPK 2002 Swedish GTR Championship - won by Team OKA Racing 2002 [24 hours of Nurburgring](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_hours_of_Nurburgring) - Overall victory, won by [Peter Zakowski](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Zakowski), R. Lechner & P. Lamy 2002 [Spa 24 Hours](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spa_24_Hours) - won by C. Bouchut, S. Bourdais, D. Terrien & V. Vosse 2001 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT1 Drivers, won by Christophe Bouchut & Jean-Philippe Belloc 2001 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT1 Teams, won by Larbre Competition 2001 [FFSA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFSA_GT_Championship) - won by D. Dupuy & F. Fiat 2001 [24 hours of Nurburgring](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_hours_of_Nurburgring) - Overall victory, won by [Peter Zakowski](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Zakowski), M. Bartels & P. Lamy 2001 [Spa 24 Hours](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spa_24_Hours) - won by C. Bouchut, J.P. Belloc & M. Duez 2001 1000km of Fuji Endurance Race 2001 [Belcar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belcar) Championship - won by Team GLPK 2001 Swedish GTR Championship - won by Team OKA Racing 2000 [FFSA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFSA_GT_Championship) - won by D. Dupuy & F. Fiat 2000 [Grand-Am](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_American_Road_Racing_Association) - GT2 Class Champion 2000 [24 Hours of Daytona](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_of_Daytona) - Overall victory 2000 [American Le Mans Series](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Le_Mans_Series) - Class Champion, Team Oreca 2000 [24 Hours of Le Mans](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans) - GTS Class 1st and 2nd place, won by team Oreca 1999 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – Drivers, won by Olivier Beretta & Karl Wendlinger 1999 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – Teams, won by Viper Team Oreca 1999 [24 Hours of Le Mans](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans) - GTS Class 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th place finishes, won by Team Oreca 1999 [American Le Mans Series](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Le_Mans_Series) - Class Champion, Team Oreca 1999 [VLN](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLN) German Championship Series - Won every race of season (10/10), Team [Zakspeed](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakspeed) 1999 [24 hours of Nurburgring](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_hours_of_Nurburgring) - Overall victory, won by [Peter Zakowski](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Zakowski), H.J. Tiemann, K. Ludwig & M. Duez 1998 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT2 Drivers, won by Olivier Beretta & Pedro Lamy 1998 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT2 Teams, won by Viper Team Oreca 1998 [24 Hours of Le Mans](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans) GT2 Class 1st and 2nd , won by Team Oreca, First series production based American car to win at Le Mans 1997 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT2 Drivers, won by Justin Bell 1997 [FIA GT Championship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT_Championship) – GT2 Teams, won by Viper Team Oreca ---
**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/173 "2008-09-05T22:25:06Z")
personally if i was spending all that money i’d buy the viper over the corvette. why? because the viper has a more exotic feel about it. you don’t see them everywhere, there’s not a cheapy base model running around everywhere. Corvettes are all around. Go take a drive and count the corvettes and count the vipers. As far as faster and turning. How often am i gonna use either one to it’s fullest potential on the street? I still want a 93 red viper with yellow wheels so i can have two vehicles with colored factory wheels. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003/174 "2008-09-06T01:35:34Z")
I would totally bang you in a red viper… My back seat is starting to get worn ☹ [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-acr-the-ring/54003.md?page=8)