# Dodge Viper is DONE... came back... died again... back AGAIN
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [January 21, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687 "2009-01-21T12:27:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/301 "2015-10-16T12:39:39Z")
> [@BigRon](#):
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> Based on the Chrysler union contract it looks like the Viper might not live on past 2017.
> [http://www.autonews.com/article/20151015/OEM01/151019918/fiat-chrysler-to-end-viper-production-in-2017-labor-deal-says](http://www.autonews.com/article/20151015/OEM01/151019918/fiat-chrysler-to-end-viper-production-in-2017-labor-deal-says)
Doesn’t look like it, but that’s okay with me, after Gen II Chrysler to me was designing the car away from it’s roots. Raw power with nothing else, no TC, no ABS (some models), no anything besides a driver and a tight ass seat belt. I believe the Gen I/II will be worth a good buck one day, like all the old Mopars. I kept holding off but picked up mine for 37K, I doubt they’ll ever be this low again.
On another note, if you prefer the Gen 3-5, they’re dropping HAM in price. If I waited another year, I probably could have gotten a Gen IV with 600HP compared to my 450, but it was more about the boyhood dream than anything, I’m keeping mine as stock as possible.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/302 "2016-01-15T07:46:18Z")
> **[Will airbags sandbag the 2017 Dodge Viper? - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/14/2017-dodge-viper-airbags-report/)**
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> The Dodge Viper can't continue into the 2017 model year because it lacks mandated side curtain airbags and fitting them would remove too much headroom.
> The Dodge Viper is speeding down the road to cancellation for the 2017 model year, and at least part of the reason for the V10 monster’s death is a problem fitting it with federally mandated side curtain airbags. An anonymous source close to FCA US told Motor Trend the automaker can’t install the parts because they would further limit the coupe’s already tight headroom. The government believes the side curtain airbags can reduce occupant ejections during accidents, and all vehicles must have them for the 2017 model year.
> The Viper’s slow sales also don’t provide FCA US much motivation to work out a solution to this problem. The automaker moved just **676** of the handmade sports coupes in the US in 2015, which was down 11 percent from 760 deliveries in 2014.
> FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne hinted at the Detroit Auto Show that the Viper could return eventually. He doesn’t like that the current model has a dedicated platform but indicated a new one could share the underpinnings with another of the company’s products. Marchionne’s current business plan for FCA stresses building the automaker’s value, so it might be a while before we see the sweater-clad CEO focusing on a niche vehicle like the Viper.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/303 "2016-01-15T07:49:24Z")
'Govment taking our Vipers…
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### Author:  [@ryanbgb22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanbgb22)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/304 "2016-01-15T07:55:04Z")
> [@ubengineering](#):
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> Doesn’t look like it, but that’s okay with me, after Gen II Chrysler to me was designing the car away from it’s roots. Raw power with nothing else, no TC, no ABS (some models), no anything besides a driver and a tight ass seat belt. I believe the Gen I/II will be worth a good buck one day, like all the old Mopars. I kept holding off but picked up mine for 37K, I doubt they’ll ever be this low again.
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> On another note, if you prefer the Gen 3-5, they’re dropping HAM in price. If I waited another year, I probably could have gotten a Gen IV with 600HP compared to my 450, but it was more about the boyhood dream than anything, I’m keeping mine as stock as possible.
This.
I’ve never been a huge Viper fan, but I’ve been warming up to the idea of grabbing a 2nd gen in the next year or so. It seems like you can’t go wrong buying a 2nd gen (especially B&W, for whatever reason) if you plan on holding onto it long-term, money-wise. My soon to be FIL has a 3rd gen and I keep telling him to dump it now.
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/305 "2016-01-15T08:16:01Z")
I have always loved the viper and the new ACR is no exception.I like the noise, the styling… all of it.
[https://youtu.be/9qWYJQClIyY](https://youtu.be/9qWYJQClIyY)
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/306 "2016-01-15T12:18:25Z")
I hope they stop making it. But who knows.
Even though I’m a Viper enthusiast I’m not sure how fair it is to put the Z06 up against the ACR.
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/307 "2016-01-15T14:41:22Z")
Why is it not fair? It is the track package of the fastest most capable car gm makes.
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/308 "2016-01-15T17:08:40Z")
> [@somedude](#):
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> Why is it not fair? It is the track package of the fastest most capable car gm makes.
You’re right now that I think about it over again. It’s just like the ACR always seems to be in its own league. But it should push the other manufacturers toward improvement.
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### Author:  [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/309 "2016-01-16T09:10:11Z")
Comparing a Z07 package Z06 to an ACR Viper is 100% fair. Each are the best model from each manufacturer. I like how the guys sort of pushed for GM to hurry up with their mid-engined Zora 'Vette.
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/310 "2016-01-16T13:30:00Z")
That Vette will be nasty if it’s going to be what they say it is.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2016, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/311 "2016-01-17T07:32:47Z")
> [@joelster](#):
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> Comparing a Z07 package Z06 to an ACR Viper is 100% fair. Each are the best model from each manufacturer. I like how the guys sort of pushed for GM to hurry up with their mid-engined Zora 'Vette.
I would argue the ACR Viper should compare to a ZR1 which is not out yet.
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/312 "2016-01-17T07:48:18Z")
I had the understanding that there was not going to be a ZR1. I would agree that the ACR is in a different league. it is a streetable track car where the ZO6 is a street car that can do track stuff well.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/313 "2016-06-21T11:53:52Z")
> **[Dodge Viper production to end after 2017](https://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/21/dodge-viper-canceled-2017/)**
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> The Dodge Viper had a good run, but it's finally over.
Dead again in 2017
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2016, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/314 "2016-06-21T11:56:31Z")
I like the most recent Vipers. They’re great looking cars IMO.
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/315 "2016-06-21T17:08:31Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> I like the most recent Vipers. They’re great looking cars IMO.
X2 if not a Gen 2, then a Gen 5
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/316 "2016-06-21T17:29:26Z")
i like it that other people own vipers… so that i dont have to
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/317 "2016-06-21T18:49:32Z")
It’s time to lay it out to pasture.
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### Author:  [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/318 "2016-06-22T05:48:42Z")
Damn. I must say Chrysler has been slow to making new models of vehicles.
They made it seem like they were gonna build another barracuda, maybe that will take its place.
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/319 "2016-06-22T13:15:45Z")
Chrysler is the Nintendo of Car Manufacturers.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dodge-viper-is-done-came-back-died-again-back-again/61687/320 "2018-05-28T18:43:54Z")
How many times can they kill it and bring it back?
> Sorry, 10-pack fans, the Viper is downsizing. Chrysler is (finally) developing an aluminum-block V-8 to replace the aging iron-block anchor it calls Hemi. We’re guessing that a naturally aspirated V-8 will be the new Viper’s first engine.
[https://www.caranddriver.com/features/2021-dodge-viper-a-motown-legend-is-reborn](https://www.caranddriver.com/features/2021-dodge-viper-a-motown-legend-is-reborn)
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