# Does .999999 = 1    vPOLL

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [June 20, 2006, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546 "2006-06-20T08:06:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![badazzss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@badazzss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/badazzss)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/81 "2006-06-21T09:36:04Z")

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this was necessary. just the kind of douchebagery that i expected from you.

> [@newman](#):
>
> this is all the math i care about.
> 
> badazzss \< \*
> 
> or maybe:
> 
> badazzss \< 0
> 
> or, possibly
> 
> badazzss \<3 8====D

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/82 "2006-06-21T09:43:29Z")

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> [@badazzss](#):
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> this was necessary. just the kind of douchebagery that i expected from you.

well, i sunk to personal attacks because your logic is horrible, you clearly suck at math, and you are just a general idiot. It’s funnier if i just make fun of who you are, because your shitty logic makes fun of itself.

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**Author:** ![badazzss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@badazzss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/badazzss)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/83 "2006-06-21T09:46:57Z")

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why don’t you explain where my logic is horrible, or where i suck at math?

it would be funnier if i just sunk to your level and physically attacked right? maybe uncalled for, but still worthwhile. moron.

> [@newman](#):
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> well, i sunk to personal attacks because your logic is horrible, you clearly suck at math, and you are just a general idiot. It’s funnier if i just make fun of who you are, because your shitty logic makes fun of itself.

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/84 "2006-06-21T09:54:14Z")

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ENOUGH!! No more BS in this thread or it’s getting da-lok…

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/85 "2006-06-21T10:01:29Z")

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actually, badazzss’s logic is correct.

To say something exists because it can not be proven otherwise is a fallacy know as **“Appeal to Ignorance (_Ad Ignorantiam_)”** (as described in The Elements of Reasoning 4th ed.)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/86 "2006-06-21T10:19:20Z")

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> [@badazzss](#):
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> 1 does NOT equal 0.9999~ there is a place for 0.9999~ on the number line, and it is IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT of 1.0.
> 
> /thread.

:tup:

atleast in real world math your 100% correct

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/87 "2006-06-21T10:26:41Z")

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> [@badazzss](#):
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> its been awhile since i’ve done math… but… how do you get from:
> 
> - x = -0.999…  
> to  
> 9x = 9.000… = 9  
> ?
> 
> to get from - x = - 0.9999~ to the next step, you would have to multiply both sides by -9. when you do so, you can’t multiple -9 by -0.9999~ because it will only give you an approximate #, it will NOT give you 9. it’s impossible to multiply that without rounding.
> 
> and like sureshot said, 1/3 does not equal .3333~
> 
> 1 does NOT equal 0.9999~ there is a place for 0.9999~ on the number line, and it is IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT of 1.0.
> 
> /thread.

yes, 1/3 does = .33333~  
pull out your calculator and divide 1 by 3

and read the thread and you will see how you go from  
x = .9999  
to  
10x = 9.9999  
to  
9x = 9  
to  
x = 1

it is a very basic formula

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/88 "2006-06-21T10:27:02Z")

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:word:

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/89 "2006-06-21T10:28:28Z")

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when I use the calc in windows and divid 1 by 3, it = .3333333333333, but when I do 2/3 it = .6666666666667, which is not what was in the proof, so the proof MUST be wrong.

How the fuck do you go from 10x = .999999999 to 9x=9??? What math rule do you use for that?!

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/90 "2006-06-21T10:30:45Z")

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> [@sureshot007](#):
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> when I use the calc in windows and divid 1 by 3, it = .3333333333333, but when I do 2/3 it = .6666666666667, which is not what was in the proof, so the proof MUST be wrong.
> 
> How the fuck do you go from 10x = .999999999 to 9x=9??? What math rule do you use for that?!

then your calc sucks and is rounding

my ti 86 doesnt lie

thats the formula for converting a repeating decimal to a fraction. this should have been learned in 9th grade, and then again in college level math.

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[http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/57041.html](http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/57041.html)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/91 "2006-06-21T10:35:00Z")

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^^^ werd I think thats because it’s a finite number… at any rate though, it should happen eventually down the ladder. This is all just theory though… it really cannot be proven.

like i said… if 1.000~ = 1… then how can .999~ = 1?

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/92 "2006-06-21T10:37:27Z")

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Are you saying that Windows is wrong???

And that formula is for converting to a fraction, and is improperly used for this application.

We all remember the 2=1 proofs ([http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.false.proof.html](http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.false.proof.html)). You have to properly apply the formulas to get right answers - I learned that in college physics.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/93 "2006-06-21T10:46:21Z")

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that forumla is being properly applied. it is for converting a repeating decimal to a fraction, and it is doing just that. it just so happens that the fraction turns out to be 9/9 or 1.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/94 "2006-06-21T11:18:12Z")

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This thread is going nowhere fast Now.

oh… wait…

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/95 "2006-06-21T12:38:43Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> that forumla is being properly applied. it is for converting a repeating decimal to a fraction, and it is doing just that. it just so happens that the fraction turns out to be 9/9 or 1.

Or is it really 8.99999999999999999999999999999999999999~/9 😮

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**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/96 "2006-06-21T12:43:37Z")

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x = .999999999…

Ok? With me so far? Good.

10x = 9.99999999999999…

With me?

10x - x = 9x

got it?

9.99999999… (or 10x) - .999999999… (or x) = 9 (or 9x)

If 9 = 9x then x = 1

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**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/97 "2006-06-21T13:11:36Z")

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THE PLANE WILL TAKE OFF!!!

Sorry, I was just suffering flashbacks there.

This really is quite simple people. Joe has probably layed it out in the easiest way so far.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/98 "2006-06-21T13:16:43Z")

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> [@Itagaki](#):
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> THE PLANE WILL TAKE OFF!!!
> 
> Sorry, I was just suffering flashbacks there.
> 
> This really is quite simple people. Joe has probably layed it out in the easiest way so far.

> if 1.000~ = 1… then how can .999~ = 1?  
> … just wondering

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**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/99 "2006-06-21T13:26:29Z")

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I’m not a math major here, but its a matter of .999 being a repeating decimal.

Joe and others have given the basic formulas and logical explinations. I myself can’t even begin to formulate a reason, my head hurts too much already and this week (all 3 days of it) has been a living hell and I don’t feel like explaining myself.

Bout how bout this: if 0.333…34 is used as a decimal representative of 1/3 (instead of 0.3333~), then what would you do with 0.99999~? If you round the last decimal place up, as you should, you would end up with 1.

Like I said, my head hurts too much right now.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-999999-1-vpoll/13546/100 "2006-06-21T13:39:07Z")

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if you put 1 drop of poison in lake ontario, does it have any poison in it?

edit- im just being a douche. i couldnt really care less if .9999 = 1 or not. all i know is that this thread sucks.

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