# does an SAFC work on 3.0 SHO motors ?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [June 24, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766 "2006-06-24T16:25:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/1 "2006-06-24T16:25:06Z")

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curious due to another friends project :snky:

the safc in question is this style:

[http://aaron.fugeelama.com/SAfc.jpg](http://aaron.fugeelama.com/SAfc.jpg)

donno if its any different (besides the outward style) then the later knob / joystick style

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/2 "2006-06-24T17:37:46Z")

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no they should not work…ford computers are equipped with adaptive learning…basically the car will strive for a perfect 14.64 air fuel ratio at ANY cost. the safc will fork for maybe 5 mins before the computer catches up and writes over your adjustments. do the programable wideband trick.

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/3 "2006-06-24T18:25:01Z")

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alrighty, i have a different trick up my sleave ill attempt to use for this setup …

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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/4 "2006-06-24T20:34:18Z")

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Honestly, the two best routes.

Tweecer: (What somedude is using)

$300, $500 if you want real-time feedback via laptop

-Requires a computer, laptop is nice but not necessary.  
-Full control of ECU fuel tables, and everything from shift points, to tranny line pressure, secondary activation, and just about anything you would ever need to touch, and lot you would never need to.

Custom burned chip (Aka. LPM)

-Again full ECU control, but it has to be sent in to be burned.  
-Bit cheaper

SAFC will not work for the most part. As the computer will learn the changes. Which is general accross all ford EEC-IV fuel systems, ddrop tried that on his probe with no luck.

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/5 "2006-06-24T21:33:16Z")

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guess that settles it

02 sensor hack ftw

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/6 "2006-06-24T21:37:03Z")

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so that engine will definately be boosted? definately no NA love?

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/7 "2006-06-24T21:41:24Z")

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boost \>

but at first it will be n/a

might be converted to twin throttle bodies for the fun of it 🙂

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/8 "2006-06-25T10:15:10Z")

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o shit i thought this WAS for somedude’s setup…now i know what itsw for lol. :tup:

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/9 "2006-06-25T13:28:50Z")

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you can swap them to twin Tb’s actually, the only concern with twin turbo’s and twin TB’s is the maf. not a huge deal though.

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**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-an-safc-work-on-3-0-sho-motors/13766/10 "2006-06-25T17:32:47Z")

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this is going to be a fun project…
