# does anyone here know anything about the law

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [August 26, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907 "2011-08-26T15:19:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/21 "2011-08-26T16:07:58Z")

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![http://thesoapgoat.com/soap-on-a-rope1.jpg](http://thesoapgoat.com/soap-on-a-rope1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/22 "2011-08-26T16:19:27Z")

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> [@ieatpaint](#):
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> Says the guy with no punctuation or sentence structure.

You sir, have caught me! Happy now?

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**Author:** ![Copper280z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copper280z/32/5464_2.png) [@Copper280z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Copper280z)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/23 "2011-08-26T16:32:53Z")

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Deleting this thread is probably a good idea.

I’d look up a lawyer just in case the police do show up, but if he started the fight, brought a weapon, then got his ass kicked, he’d be an idiot to call the police. “Hi, 911, I started a fight and got my ass whooped, can you go arrest the guy?”

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**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/24 "2011-08-26T19:54:44Z")

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hope there was a witness, otherwise, you attacked him with a bat.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/25 "2011-08-26T21:07:59Z")

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if he brought a bat, you are not allowed to use a gun lol

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**Author:** ![Chevy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/chevy/32/5404_2.png) [@Chevy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Chevy)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/26 "2011-08-27T07:38:09Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> if he brought a bat, you are not allowed to use a gun lol

this

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**Author:** ![Copper280z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copper280z/32/5464_2.png) [@Copper280z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Copper280z)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/27 "2011-08-27T07:52:06Z")

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Wrong actually, look up the law. [Article 35 NY Penal Law - Defense of Justification | NY Laws](http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article35.htm)

> S 35.15 Justification; use of physical force in defense of a person.
> 
> 1. A person may, subject to the provisions of subdivision two, use  
> physical force upon another person when and to the extent he reasonably  
> believes such to be necessary to defend himself or a third person from  
> what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful  
> physical force by such other person, unless:  
> (a) The latter`s conduct was provoked by the actor himself with intent  
> to cause physical injury to another person; or  
> (b) The actor was the initial aggressor; except that in such case his  
> use of physical force is nevertheless justifiable if he has withdrawn  
> from the encounter and effectively communicated such withdrawal to such  
> other person but the latter persists in continuing the incident by the  
> use or threatened imminent use of unlawful physical force; or  
> (c) The physical force involved is he product of a combat by  
> agreement not specifically authorized by law.
> 2. A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person  
> under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:  
> (a) **He reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to  
> use deadly physical force.** Even in such case, however, the actor may not  
> use deadly physical force if he knows that he can with complete safety  
> as to himself and others avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating;  
> except that he is under no duty to retreat if he is:  
> (i) in his dwelling and not the initial aggressor; or  
> (ii) a police officer or peace officer or a person assisting a police  
> officer or a peace officer at the latter`s direction, acting pursuant to  
> section 35.30; or  
> (b) He reasonably believes that such other person is committing or  
> attempting to commit a kidnapping, forcible rape, forcible sodomy or  
> robbery; or  
> (c) He reasonably believes that such other person is committing or  
> attempting to commit a burglary, and the circumstances are such that the  
> use of deadly physical force is authorized by subdivision three of  
> section 35.20.

A bat or knife is very much ‘deadly physical force’.

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**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/28 "2011-08-27T09:04:37Z")

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> [@sonson\_jdmvtek](#):
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> not really i have faith…yea he is shyt he tells everyone he a man he can whoop a$$ but i aint knw putting ppl i jail means that

According to this, im leaning towards you being guilty.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/29 "2011-08-27T10:22:23Z")

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i guarantee i would be able to stop someone who has a bat, i cannot stop someone who has a gun. Shooting the gun should be last resort

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/30 "2011-08-27T10:44:46Z")

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story time

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**Author:** ![Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neon)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/31 "2011-08-27T10:48:10Z")

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Nigga that’s 5-10

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**Author:** ![sonson\_jdmvtek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sonson_jdmvtek/32/5269_2.png) [@sonson\_jdmvtek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sonson_jdmvtek)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/32 "2011-08-27T12:05:59Z")

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Certain individuals always have something to say about me.I have noticied that its always mentioned that i write in broken english, well its because i do not like writting so proper on here for the simple fact is, that if i write in short words the words i write are still understandable.so i did graduate with a high school diploma and did pass english with all high grades… Now hop off

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/33 "2011-08-27T12:13:50Z")

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Lawyer up, and make sure you get a good one. Never speak to anyone about it without the lawyer present.

Anything you say on here about the case can be used against you, so best to keep your yap shut.

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**Author:** ![HallockR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hallockr/32/5331_2.png) [@HallockR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HallockR)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/34 "2011-08-27T12:17:54Z")

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_S 35.15 Justification; use of physical force in defense of a person._

1. A person may, subject to the provisions of subdivision two, use  
physical force upon another person when and to the extent he reasonably  
believes such to be necessary to defend himself or a third person from  
what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful  
physical force by such other person, unless:  
(a) The latter`s conduct was provoked by the actor himself with intent  
to cause physical injury to another person; or  
(b) The actor was the initial aggressor; except that in such case his  
use of physical force is nevertheless justifiable if he has withdrawn  
from the encounter and effectively communicated such withdrawal to such  
other person but the latter persists in continuing the incident by the  
use or threatened imminent use of unlawful physical force; or  
© The physical force involved is he product of a combat by  
agreement not specifically authorized by law.
2. A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person  
under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:  
(a) He reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to  
use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the actor may not  
use deadly physical force if he knows that he can with complete safety  
as to himself and others avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating;  
except that he is under no duty to retreat if he is:  
(i) in his dwelling and not the initial aggressor; or  
(ii) a police officer or peace officer or a person assisting a police  
officer or a peace officer at the latter`s direction, acting pursuant to  
section 35.30; or  
(b) He reasonably believes that such other person is committing or  
attempting to commit a kidnapping, **forcible rape** , **forcible sodomy** or  
robbery; or  
© He reasonably believes that such other person is committing or  
attempting to commit a burglary, and the circumstances are such that the  
use of deadly physical force is authorized by subdivision three of  
section 35.20.  
  
“I honestly thought he was going to rape me.”

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**Author:** ![Z28pr0jekt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z28pr0jekt/32/5393_2.png) [@Z28pr0jekt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z28pr0jekt)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/35 "2011-08-27T13:27:07Z")

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^ lol winning defense

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**Author:** ![sonson\_jdmvtek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sonson_jdmvtek/32/5269_2.png) [@sonson\_jdmvtek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sonson_jdmvtek)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/36 "2011-08-27T15:28:09Z")

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moderator delete thread

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**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/37 "2011-08-27T20:25:19Z")

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LoL

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-here-know-anything-about-the-law/215907/38 "2011-08-27T20:38:51Z")

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Lol, dear nyspeed lawyers can you un fuck me please?

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