# Does Obama Lie? or is that a lie?

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**Created:** [June 22, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-obama-lie-or-is-that-a-lie/264172 "2012-06-22T15:49:02Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-obama-lie-or-is-that-a-lie/264172/30 "2012-06-27T09:49:02Z")

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> [@Put MTV 2 on now](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-mtv-2-on-now/49988/2):
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> what _lies_ between liars and truth tellers in the communities eye?
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> Trust.
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> What trumps trust, every time?
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> Proven action & results. (not debating how well obama is doing his job here, thats not my point)
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> If the biggest lier can produce results, there is absolutly no need for trust. Trust is just piece of mind really, used by someone to pass the baton to the next runner. That next runner could say “hell no, I am not going to finish this race when you hand off that baton”… but then keep running and cross the finish line. It was a blatent lie, but the results were undisputable.
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> What i am saying is people base their “trust” on stuff thats so far out in left field for elections and such its just retarded. I could careless if the dude has 10 kids with 5 women, could care less what they did 25 years ago talking about their realitives across the globe. WTF dose that have to do with the damn gas prices I pay every day? If the dude can produce results, that speak for themselves, then no fucks given about the truth/lies flying aroud in left field.
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> EVERYONE has baggage. When thousands of people are out there witch hunting for that junk, it will surface. The clear headed people can look past the bullshit and get down to business.

Cliffs: Who cares if you are a liar if you produce results.

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