# Domestic quality article v. Buick **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 10, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680 "2007-08-10T04:00:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrockwayMT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brockwaymt/32/5060_2.png) [@BrockwayMT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BrockwayMT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/1 "2007-08-10T04:00:40Z")
> **Buick ties Lexus for quality** > For the first time in 12 years, Toyota’s luxury brand shares the top spot in a vehicle-dependability survey. GM and Ford brands captured three of the top five spots. > By The Associated Press > Buick tied with Lexus as the highest-ranking brand in a closely watched study of vehicle dependability, marking the first time in 12 years that Lexus has shared the top award, J.D. Power and Associates said Thursday. > Cadillac, Mercury and Honda rounded out the top five brands in the annual survey, which measures problems experienced by the original owners of three-year-old vehicles. > Both Buick and Lexus had 145 problems per 100 vehicles. The worst-performing brand, Land Rover, had 398 problems. The industry average was 216 problems, down from 227 in last year’s survey. The whole article… [http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/SaveonaCar/MostDependableCar.aspx](http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/SaveonaCar/MostDependableCar.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/2 "2007-08-10T04:24:12Z")
again, :tup: to GM. Although I’m not a buick fan by any means ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/3 "2007-08-10T05:13:11Z")
**R** ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/4 "2007-08-10T05:49:44Z")
[E](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35162) ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/5 "2007-08-10T06:07:31Z")
LIABLE ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/6 "2007-08-10T06:59:04Z")
:lol: har har jackass 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/7 "2007-08-10T07:03:05Z")
3 years @ 12k miles per = 36,000 = JUST ending warranty period(for some brands) Lets see like 60K+ miles / 5+ years ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/8 "2007-08-10T07:14:24Z")
[quote=“Toda Party,post:7,topic:33680"”] 3 years @ 12k miles per = 36,000 = JUST ending warranty period(for some brands) Lets see like 60K+ miles / 5+ years [/quote] Don’t you have a forum you should be restoring? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/9 "2007-08-10T07:29:27Z")
Buicks don’t break because: 1. the owners never press the pedals hard enough to break anything 2. The owners either drive them 15k miles over 5 years or get in an accident before a warranty item might break I wish buick would vanish :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/10 "2007-08-10T07:34:22Z")
[quote=“JayS,post:8,topic:33680"”] Don’t you have a forum you should be restoring? 😉 [/quote] talk to haner ---
**Author:** ![HYBOOST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hyboost/32/5088_2.png) [@HYBOOST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HYBOOST)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/11 "2007-08-10T07:51:24Z")
[quote=“STEALTTH,post:9,topic:33680"”] Buicks don’t break because: 1. the owners never press the pedals hard enough to break anything 2. The owners either drive them 15k miles over 5 years or get in an accident before a warranty item might break I wish buick would vanish :lol: [/quote] Too old to notice the: 1. Muffler fell off. 2. Car wont do more than 33 MPH. 3)Windows don’t go down. 3. Anti lock & traction control are inop. 4. for the really old, car won’t start. Feel free to add your own reasons. Hey wait, I drive a Buick!! ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/12 "2007-08-10T08:07:01Z")
[quote=“STEALTTH,post:9,topic:33680"”] Buicks don’t break because: 1. the owners never press the pedals hard enough to break anything 2. The owners either drive them 15k miles over 5 years or get in an accident before a warranty item might break I wish buick would vanish :lol: [/quote] :lol: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/13 "2007-08-10T08:24:07Z")
My 94 Lesabre with 144k on it has no issues other than usual maint for something that old. ---
**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/14 "2007-08-10T08:32:10Z")
my aunt has a newer lacrosse, I hate the friggin thing. I keep telling her to get away from buick. IMO they’re gonna be the next oldsmobile. I have a mercury mini-van and I don’t think that’s to well put together either. ---
**Author:** ![eMKay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/emkay/32/7428_2.png) [@eMKay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eMKay)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/15 "2007-08-10T09:24:44Z")
Initial quality is really not a measure of dependability, long term reliability is, so you have to look at Consumer Reports and look how the vehicle does after 5 years or so. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/16 "2007-08-10T09:55:51Z")
[quote=“Toda Party,post:7,topic:33680"”] 3 years @ 12k miles per = 36,000 = JUST ending warranty period(for some brands) Lets see like 60K+ miles / 5+ years [/quote] Buick does have a 4/50k bumper to bumper and a 5/100 powertrain ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/17 "2007-08-10T12:51:01Z")
[quote=“STEALTTH,post:9,topic:33680"”] Buicks don’t break because: 1. the owners never press the pedals hard enough to break anything 2. The owners either drive them 15k miles over 5 years or get in an accident before a warranty item might break I wish buick would vanish :lol: [/quote] Hahaha, how true. ---
**Author:** ![BrockwayMT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brockwaymt/32/5060_2.png) [@BrockwayMT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BrockwayMT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/18 "2007-08-10T16:25:00Z")
I love it. Honda could put their badge on a Vega and sell it and you’d dyed in the wool domestic haters would stand behind it. In other news my Ford and my Chevrolet are currently broken. :smash2: ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/19 "2007-08-10T21:06:48Z")
[quote=“eMKay,post:15,topic:33680"”] Initial quality is really not a measure of dependability, long term reliability is. [/quote] For real, end this thread, it’s completely pointless. Buick comparable to a Yota? :hang: ---
**Author:** ![Southtowns27](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/southtowns27/32/5002_2.png) [@Southtowns27](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Southtowns27)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/domestic-quality-article-v-buick/33680/20 "2007-08-11T11:37:01Z")
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