# Done with fixing cars... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 19, 2005, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043 "2005-06-19T08:00:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/21 "2005-06-20T10:45:59Z")
> [@rookee](#): > > they are jokes of cars. the shitty interior bothers me alot, the buzzing and rattling. the fact that if you want new brakes or an air filter you have to order it bc no store carries the parts, and the absolute lack of customer service or backing of the warranty. f them, this is my last suzuki ever, and i’m now conscious that GM is involved, but not anti GM. i don’t mind the interior that much especailly for an econbox. granted you have the base model sedan & heather has the SX hatch. the rattles do get a little anoying, but i bet the lowered/stiffer suspension & exhaust hasn’t help any either. jay, george & I have done a decent amout of maintenance on it & we havn’t had problems with parts availability. :dunno: I’m not planning on getting another one(suzuki), but it served its purpose…we hauld a decent amount of crap in that hatch. i think the OEM clutch is kinda weak. ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/22 "2005-06-20T11:09:54Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > i don’t mind the interior that much especailly for an econbox. > > granted you have the base model sedan & heather has the SX hatch. > > the rattles do get a little anoying, but i bet the lowered/stiffer suspension & exhaust hasn’t help any either. > > jay, george & I have done a decent amout of maintenance on it & we havn’t had problems with parts availability. :dunno: > > I’m not planning on getting another one(suzuki), but it served its purpose…we hauld a decent amount of crap in that hatch. > > i think the OEM clutch is kinda weak. still haven’t found anywhere that sells a stinking air filter ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/23 "2005-06-20T11:14:53Z")
> [@rookee](#): > > still haven’t found anywhere that sells a stinking air filter heather’s got a AEM, so she doesn’t have that problem. i might have the stock filter laying around if you need it. just go to advanced…if they don’t carry it …it takes 1day to get it. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/24 "2005-06-20T11:25:05Z")
hum… “get what you pay for” rings true here. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/25 "2005-06-20T11:29:28Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > hum… “get what you pay for” rings true here. true…true but i think its a decent bang for you buck…or @ least the SX was. :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/26 "2005-06-20T12:26:53Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > hum… “get what you pay for” rings true here. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/27 "2005-06-20T12:32:17Z")
let me know how that car works for ya when you wreck into anything bigger than a pedal bike. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/28 "2005-06-20T12:33:22Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > let me know how that car works for ya when you wreck into anything bigger than a pedal bike. probably the same as every other small car on the road today. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/29 "2005-06-20T12:39:25Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > probably the same as every other small car on the road today. Good chance at death. they only ever tell you the front and side crash ratings. From the looks of that thing, if you get rear ended, you better hope its not someone you care about, like a child, in that back seat. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/30 "2005-06-20T12:42:31Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > Good chance at death. they only ever tell you the front and side crash ratings. From the looks of that thing, if you get rear ended, you better hope its not someone you care about, like a child, in that back seat. all small cars are like that. And those crash ratings are bullshit. The real world is a lot different than those stupid ass lab tests. I keep hearing how these small cars get 5 stars, but what if a f350 superduty hits you? They need a more realistic way of rating cars. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/31 "2005-06-20T13:03:30Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > all small cars are like that. And those crash ratings are bullshit. The real world is a lot different than those stupid ass lab tests. I keep hearing how these small cars get 5 stars, but what if a f350 superduty hits you? They need a more realistic way of rating cars. oh i totally hear you on that. 5 star rating comapred to what is what i ask. My moms 84 lesbre got broadsided by a maxima. the cops estimated that lady was going near 55. my mom had cuts and bruises and the lady had broken everything and was on life support for a long time. The maximas engine was sitting in the front seat!!! the lesbre got hit twice in the accident, first the max and then a dodge ram from behind and we still have the engine, tranny, all the interior, hood, bumpers and passenger side sheet metal. The full frame did was it was intended to do, it deflected the opposing car before it entered the cabin. good gas milage and ecomical and even performance should come second to saftey for a daily driver. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/32 "2005-06-20T13:08:37Z")
> [@Cutty](#): > > good gas milage and ecomical and even performance should come second to saftey for a daily driver. is that why you like g-bodies 😃 sorry, I had to I hear ya. I do like the crumple zones in the new cars, but sometimes “mass” is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/33 "2005-06-20T13:11:33Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > is that why you like g-bodies 😃 > sorry, I had to > > . actually yeah. Full frame RWD. now if i could only get a turbo buick and then i’d have one with some power ---
**Author:** ![imported\_jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/53a042/32.png) [@imported\_jim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_jim)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/34 "2005-06-20T14:50:59Z")
I’ve had nothing but good experiences with our 1997 Sidekick. We’ve got over 140,000 on it and have had only a few minor problems with it (nothing drivetrain related-just stuff like a starter at 137,000 miles, a fan clutch at 87,000 and an endlink at 115,000). I even towed my formula racecar behind it quite a few times across the state. We went with the Suzuki because the Rav4 and CRV were not real trucks (no frame or tranfer case with a low range). We passed on the Tracker because it was a stripped down version of the Sidekick that lacked most of the good features/trim and didn’t offer a bigger motor option. I also worked at a now dufunt Suzuki dealer as a service advisor and can say that as a whole they were as good as the Nissans we also delt with. On average, there were more small things that went wrong with Suzukis than I saw at the Honda dealer I previously worked at but I feel that they were better than the cars I saw when I worked for GM back in the mid 90s at a Pontiac/Olds/Caddy dealer. Obviously Suzuki products cost less than other cars. By and large, that means people on a budget buy them. That also seems to mean that these “budget minded” people skip all the scheduled services and generally don’t treat their vehicles well. This lack of maintenance contributes greatly to the problems they have with their vehicles. I’ve heard a lot of people either praise or condem their vehicles and a quick check of their service history helps tell the tale. I’m not talking about oil changes at Iffy Lube either. You need to replace your coolant, tranny fluid, brake fluid, etc on a routine basis and do tune ups, adjustments and cleaning and inspections as well. Neglecting your car is an invitation for problems to occur. ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/35 "2005-06-20T14:57:23Z")
> [@jim](#): > > I’ve had nothing but good experiences with our 1997 Sidekick. We’ve got over 140,000 on it and have had only a few minor problems with it (nothing drivetrain related-just stuff like a starter at 137,000 miles, a fan clutch at 87,000 and an endlink at 115,000). I even towed my formula racecar behind it quite a few times across the state. We went with the Suzuki because the Rav4 and CRV were not real trucks (no frame or tranfer case with a low range). We passed on the Tracker because it was a stripped down version of the Sidekick that lacked most of the good features/trim and didn’t offer a bigger motor option. > > I also worked at a now dufunt Suzuki dealer as a service advisor and can say that as a whole they were as good as the Nissans we also delt with. On average, there were more small things that went wrong with Suzukis than I saw at the Honda dealer I previously worked at but I feel that they were better than the cars I saw when I worked for GM back in the mid 90s at a Pontiac/Olds/Caddy dealer. > > Obviously Suzuki products cost less than other cars. By and large, that means people on a budget buy them. That also seems to mean that these “budget minded” people skip all the scheduled services and generally don’t treat their vehicles well. This lack of maintenance contributes greatly to the problems they have with their vehicles. I’ve heard a lot of people either praise or condem their vehicles and a quick check of their service history helps tell the tale. I’m not talking about oil changes at Iffy Lube either. You need to replace your coolant, tranny fluid, brake fluid, etc on a routine basis and do tune ups, adjustments and cleaning and inspections as well. Neglecting your car is an invitation for problems to occur. the car sucks and go /yourself. :jerkit: i’ve been to every scheduled maintenance. how does a faulty control arm breaking, shitty plastic pieces, and lack of parts availability & customer service that required the atty general even come close to custmer irresponisibility. too bad budget minded me couldn’t blow the wad on a rebadged tracker like you did big hitter. :blah: ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/36 "2005-06-20T15:03:24Z")
> [@rookee](#): > > the car sucks and go /yourself. :jerkit: i’ve been to every scheduled maintenance. how does a faulty control arm breaking, shitty plastic pieces, and lack of parts availability & customer service that required the atty general even come close to custmer irresponisibility. too bad budget minded me couldn’t blow the wad on a rebadged tracker like you did big hitter. :blah: dias ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/37 "2005-06-20T15:20:25Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > dias die in a \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ ? you got me, what? :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/38 "2005-06-20T15:35:06Z")
suzuki ---
**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/39 "2005-06-20T15:36:38Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > suzuki :bowrofl: in a head on collision at over 5 miles an hour i might! ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-with-fixing-cars/175043/40 "2005-06-20T15:37:30Z")
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