# douchebag neighbor and property line/town law questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 31, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500 "2013-07-31T12:24:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/41 "2013-08-01T06:28:04Z")
seems kind of obvious that your neighbors property shouldn’t touch your house ---
**Author:** ![madwabbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/madwabbit/32/6654_2.png) [@madwabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/madwabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/42 "2013-08-01T07:00:34Z")
Also true. I don’t know the correct way to handle this, I would act irrationally and get myself into trouble. What your neighbor has done is clearly wrong. Good luck. IN, if you decide to do something irrational. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/43 "2013-08-01T07:32:05Z")
sounds like this is going to get interesting ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/44 "2013-08-01T08:47:57Z")
Subd ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/45 "2013-08-01T08:56:58Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/47885/377): > > Unless you have two benchmarks…you can’t possibly know (within a couple feet) where your property lines are. > > When you are discussing a matter of 5" with your neighbor…guessing or walking an imaginary line isn’t going to work. > > I’m not saying you NEED a survey. Im saying that guessing property lines isn’t something that will hold up in court when you cut down his fence, OR PAINT IT FLUORESCENT ORANGE!! > > Don’t let him win this battle though…please keep us updated. For every “ok” person that has a douchebag neighbor…including myself…fight this! a lot of these survays use the driveway as a benchmark. ---
**Author:** ![offroadzj](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/offroadzj/32/6428_2.png) [@offroadzj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/offroadzj)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/46 "2013-08-01T09:09:32Z")
How new is the house? I could be wrong, but doesn’t all newer construction (not sure when it started) supposed to be 5 ft. minimum from the property line? I am assuming the house is older than that, but it’s worth a shot. My off the wall guess would be the edge of the walkway being the property line… but there really isn’t any way to know for sure unless it had previously been marked. ---
**Author:** ![madwabbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/madwabbit/32/6654_2.png) [@madwabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/madwabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/47 "2013-08-01T09:39:21Z")
Sidewalks, decks, FENCES, sheds, driveways…all have a minimum distance from property line measurement. It’s going to come down to when these structures were installed and whether there was a permit filed. ---
**Author:** ![srads13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@srads13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/srads13)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/48 "2013-08-01T09:40:47Z")
> [@Olympic Poll\*2012 Hot Olympians\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/olympic-poll-2012-hot-olympians/53061/110): > > How new is the house? **I could be wrong, but doesn’t all newer construction (not sure when it started) supposed to be 5 ft. minimum from the property line?** I am assuming the house is older than that, but it’s worth a shot. My off the wall guess would be the edge of the walkway being the property line… but there really isn’t any way to know for sure unless it had previously been marked. This. I’m a civil engineer and work with surveyors on a daily basis and it’s pretty much a sure thing that every municipality will have a setbacks established within their zoning code. By set backs I mean how many linear feet from the side, front, and back portions of the lot you can build a home. I’m also curious if the AC unit and the concrete pad it sits on were built after the home was originally constructed? I would imagine if it was built when the house was originally constructed they would of been sure to build it on your property and not someone elses. And to whoever was talking about bench marks being used as driveways - what our surveyors typically run benchmarks off of are physical locations and elevations that are guaranteed to not change over time (a nail on a utility pole, or a nut on the top of a hydrant). Considering driveway elevations could deteriorate over time (asphalt goes to shit, someone repaves a driveway) I would have a hard time believing you’d be able to pull a benchmark off a driveway. If you’re interested in going balls out and getting a legit survey feel free to PM me, although my company doesn’t typically do single lot surveys we have several companies we refer people to who are reasonable in price and will give you a good product. ---
**Author:** ![stuffnthings](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuffnthings/32/6294_2.png) [@stuffnthings](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuffnthings)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/49 "2013-08-01T10:57:58Z")
Side yard setback is 10’. Don’t think that is relevant although, as your house most likely pre-dates the code. There is a portion on the Rotterdam permit application addressing fencing although I don’t see what/when “x” requires/justifies the need for a permit. So one can interpret that any fence would need a permit? See if his fence has been approved through the building department and play hardball? Also, I know here in Saratoga County it is easy to bring up satellite images with property lines that you can actually (roughly) measure off of, not sure about Schenectady County… ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/50 "2013-08-01T11:19:15Z")
> [@WTB: does anyone solder?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-does-anyone-solder/53203/11): > > Side yard setback is 10’. Don’t think that is relevant although, as your house most likely pre-dates the code. There is a portion on the Rotterdam permit application addressing fencing although I don’t see what/when “x” requires/justifies the need for a permit. So one can interpret that any fence would need a permit? See if his fence has been approved through the building department and play hardball? Also, I know here in Saratoga County it is easy to bring up satellite images with property lines that you can actually (roughly) measure off of, not sure about Schenectady County… you can do that in schenectady county as well: [http://www.schenectadycounty.com/FullStory.aspx?m=43&amid=124](http://www.schenectadycounty.com/FullStory.aspx?m=43&amid=124) after you locate your house, goto “pin property on GIS map” ---
**Author:** ![stuffnthings](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuffnthings/32/6294_2.png) [@stuffnthings](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuffnthings)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/51 "2013-08-01T11:40:01Z")
^beautiful. Punch in your address and it should show the footprint of your structure, measure as best as you can to side prop line, then get mad. The measurements are far from precise but it’s enough to determine your degree of proposed pissed-offed-ness ---
**Author:** ![madwabbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/madwabbit/32/6654_2.png) [@madwabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/madwabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/52 "2013-08-01T11:51:36Z")
Awesome. Post screenshots so we can all get mad with you. Occupy? 8-1-13 Never Forget. ---
**Author:** ![Phate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Phate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/53 "2013-08-01T12:28:48Z")
> [@What to do? Make STI fast and have slow DD or buy cheap fast car and keep STI as DD?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-to-do-make-sti-fast-and-have-slow-dd-or-buy-cheap-fast-car-and-keep-sti-as-dd/53217/15): > > Sidewalks, decks, FENCES, sheds, driveways…all have a minimum distance from property line measurement. > > It’s going to come down to when these structures were installed and whether there was a permit filed. Really now? People that moved in next door had a fence put up, and it is EXACTLY on the property line. Its fucking annoying to be honest (as is the guy leaving for work at 4AM with his harley or his loud ass nissan sentra). I’ll have to look into this. Any guidance on where I can find this information out regarding schenectady/niskayuna? ---
**Author:** ![madwabbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/madwabbit/32/6654_2.png) [@madwabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/madwabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/54 "2013-08-01T12:33:50Z")
When we bought our house in Saratoga 4 years ago, we had a surveyor (friend of the family) come over and mark out the property lines. Our neighbor (my douchbag) had his fence over the property line 6". He was required by the city to move it back 5’ onto his property line before before closing or deal was off. He did. On the other side of the coin…we had our driveway paved the first summer we lived here. We applied for a deck permit the following summer. When the building inspector came to inspect the deck, he noticed a small section of our driveway was 2’ from the property line…5’ was required. I fixed it. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/55 "2013-08-01T13:31:19Z")
> [@White Power! soon to be no more](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/white-power-soon-to-be-no-more/53215/3): > > Fuck the town and the shit head neighbor, rip the fucker out of the ground. Took the letters right off of my keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![MikeyB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mikeyb/32/6448_2.png) [@MikeyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeyB)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/56 "2013-08-01T13:31:41Z")
What the fuck is your neighbor gonna do when he finds 100+ shift518ers with trucks,shovels etc…Pullin for ya man!!! ---
**Author:** ![Skidplate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/57 "2013-08-01T13:52:18Z")
> [@The BAGEL Poll](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-bagel-poll/53219/16): > > What the fuck is your neighbor gonna do when he finds 100+ shift518ers with trucks,shovels etc…Pullin for ya man!!! if shift has anything to do with this fence removal, half of it will end up in PJB’s truck one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![MikeyB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mikeyb/32/6448_2.png) [@MikeyB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeyB)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/58 "2013-08-01T14:00:22Z")
repz^^ ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/59 "2013-08-01T14:10:14Z")
its vinyl so its of no use to me ---
**Author:** ![GenPatton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/genpatton/32/6760_2.png) [@GenPatton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GenPatton)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500/60 "2013-08-01T14:35:45Z")
PJB lives only a couple streets down from me, but, I’ll definitely be using this vinyl fence probably along the back of my house. 😃 > [@Hey night crew.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-night-crew/53206/48): > > Also true. > > I don’t know the correct way to handle this, I would act irrationally and get myself into trouble. What your neighbor has done is clearly wrong. > > Good luck. IN, if you decide to do something irrational. This house is actually my fathers … and, like the consensus here is, he was about ready to go do something, a bit, _illegal_. :shifty :rofl But, I figured, nothing good will come from that. I’m not looking to get arrested, I’m looking to get free fencing. > [@The BAGEL Poll](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-bagel-poll/53219/3): > > This. I’m a civil engineer and work with surveyors on a daily basis and it’s pretty much a sure thing that every municipality will have a setbacks established within their zoning code. By set backs I mean how many linear feet from the side, front, and back portions of the lot you can build a home. > > I’m also curious if the AC unit and the concrete pad it sits on were built after the home was originally constructed? I would imagine if it was built when the house was originally constructed they would of been sure to build it on your property and not someone elses. > > And to whoever was talking about bench marks being used as driveways - what our surveyors typically run benchmarks off of are physical locations and elevations that are guaranteed to not change over time (a nail on a utility pole, or a nut on the top of a hydrant). Considering driveway elevations could deteriorate over time (asphalt goes to shit, someone repaves a driveway) I would have a hard time believing you’d be able to pull a benchmark off a driveway. > > If you’re interested in going balls out and getting a legit survey feel free to PM me, although my company doesn’t typically do single lot surveys we have several companies we refer people to who are reasonable in price and will give you a good product. Going to send you a PM! The town said something about getting the pool permit denied, then doing a varience (If that’s right?), but I need a survey done on the property. I was quoted for $800-$900, so, if you can refer me to someone who can do better, I’d definitely be looking to get it done. > [@Hey night crew.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-night-crew/53206/51): > > you can do that in schenectady county as well: > > [http://www.schenectadycounty.com/FullStory.aspx?m=43&amid=124](http://www.schenectadycounty.com/FullStory.aspx?m=43&amid=124) > > after you locate your house, goto “pin property on GIS map” Thanks! > [@The BAGEL Poll](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-bagel-poll/53219/13): > > ^beautiful. Punch in your address and it should show the footprint of your structure, measure as best as you can to side prop line, then get mad. The measurements are far from precise but it’s enough to determine your degree of proposed pissed-offed-ness Photo… Definitely not precise … but definitely not 5"s :haha > [@2009 Challenger....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-challenger/50696/94): > > When we bought our house in Saratoga 4 years ago, we had a surveyor (friend of the family) come over and mark out the property lines. > > Our neighbor (my douchbag) had his fence over the property line 6". He was required by the city to move it back 5’ onto his property line before before closing or deal was off. He did. > > On the other side of the coin…we had our driveway paved the first summer we lived here. We applied for a deck permit the following summer. When the building inspector came to inspect the deck, he noticed a small section of our driveway was 2’ from the property line…5’ was required. > > I fixed it. Well that’s interesting. The town said my neighbor ended up getting a permit for the fence, but never got a survey. So technically if my neighbor wanted to put up a fence (After I rip this one down :tbu), if I didn’t want a fence, he’d be forced to put it 5’ from our property line? In other words, because **he** wants a fence, he has to lose 5’ of property if I deny me allowing it on/near the property line? > [@The BAGEL Poll](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-bagel-poll/53219/16): > > What the fuck is your neighbor gonna do when he finds 100+ shift518ers with trucks,shovels etc…Pullin for ya man!!! The person we spoke to at the town hall said that if the fence is on my property at all, then it is my fence and I can take it down. (Definitely on my property). **_Shift518 party? I’ll buy the beer. :crackup_** [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/douchebag-neighbor-and-property-line-town-law-questions/267500.md?page=4)