# downed rider today **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downed-rider-today/263240 **Category:** Shift518 Automotive **Created:** [April 2, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downed-rider-today/263240 "2012-04-02T16:04:40Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 59
### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr) #### Post date: [April 3, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downed-rider-today/263240/59 "2012-04-03T11:04:28Z")
> [@Jeep Commander](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeep-commander/48908/14): > > There are different theories of punishment. The main two are: > (1) Punishment-as-revenge (eye for an eye) for acting wrongly, and as a means of fairness as viewed by society (example: if a rapist was released without jail time we would all think that it’s pretty unfair that this victim was raped but this d-bag gets off without any suffering) > (2) Detering future law breaking > > You seem to fall into (1). Maybe you think that this guy broke the law therefore he should have to pay for neglecting the safety of himself and others on the road. And that’s fine. > > I see it differently. I think this guy has probably learnt from this, and we have all learnt from this, and giving him a ticket doesn’t add anything to the pot. What info if any you have that he has learned from this? That he feels like shit now? You’re saying he will never speed again for the rest of his life? Sure it may not be excessive and specialized vans don’t do 150 unless you’re hot wheels, but he could still be driving over the limit on the highway. It’s like saying “he’s been to jail once, he’ll never break the law again”. He speeds, crashes due to speed, he gets a ticket seems like a rather straight forward solution. What if he didn’t become paralyzed but just crashed? Should he get a ticket then? Did he learn then? What if he crashed and didn’t get hurt at all, not a scuff? Deserves a ticket or not? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downed-rider-today/263240)._