# downed rider today

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [April 2, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downed-rider-today/263240 "2012-04-02T16:04:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![HiSpeed48](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hispeed48/32/6688_2.png) [@HiSpeed48](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HiSpeed48)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/downed-rider-today/263240/60 "2012-04-03T11:32:10Z")

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> [@FS:91 harley davidson](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-91-harley-davidson/27552/37):
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> What info if any you have that he has learned from this? That he feels like shit now?
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> You’re saying he will never speed again for the rest of his life? Sure it may not be excessive and specialized vans don’t do 150 unless you’re hot wheels, but he could still be driving over the limit on the highway.
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> It’s like saying “he’s been to jail once, he’ll never break the law again”.
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> He speeds, crashes due to speed, he gets a ticket seems like a rather straight forward solution.
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> What if he didn’t become paralyzed but just crashed? Should he get a ticket then? Did he learn then? What if he crashed and didn’t get hurt at all, not a scuff? Deserves a ticket or not?

I don’t know for sure if he’s learned anything (even if you gave him a ticket there’s no way knowing that he’s learned). But I believe more-likely-than-not that breaking your back will deter you from acting like that again.

I think you’re getting away from the point. My point is that eventually there comes a time when a ticket loses its purpose. Usually in situations where “the damage has already been done,” like in the case of getting badly hurt. Obviously if a person isn’t hurt at all then they should be given a ticket, because that person hasn’t been burdened with a “reality check” which would make them re-think their behavior.

Hypothetical question: Lets say you are riding two-up with your wife and you are speeding, and you crash and she dies but you live. You now have to live the rest of your life knowing that you killed the person you loved. Would you slow down in the future? If so, would getting a $200 ticket make you slow down even more, or about the same?

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