# drill our own oil petition. **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 2, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800 "2008-06-02T20:34:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/21 "2008-06-11T03:14:13Z")
> [@VW Bastard Child](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-bastard-child/36716/14): > > use less gas. > > less demand means lower prices. > > 7th grade business class economics FTW. > > $4 gas sucks, but I get 30mpg in the city and 40mpg on the highway. the shit could go to $6 before it would really affect me, and once i stop delivering pizza, i don’t give a fuck if i goes to $10. > > the answer is more cars the size of mine. i’d especially like to see them get highly efficient (turbo)diesel motors. we can scale back diesel emissions requirements (ours are MORE STRINGENT THAN EUROPE’S!), and crank out millions of economical cars without costly/intricate hybrid systems. > > and petitions are fucking retarded. the japanese have been doing that for years. it was only a matter of time until the US had to go that route as well. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/22 "2008-06-11T06:24:46Z")
> [@Plan B](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plan-b/36782/17): > > the japanese have been doing that for years. it was only a matter of time until the US had to go that route as well. yeah but they don’t have as many tree huggers as we do. Just like that SD refinery thing. > While conceding defeat, opponents vowed to keep fighting the controversial project on every imaginable front, pressing on with a lawsuit it filed against the county over the zoning procedures and opposing Hyperion as it applies for a bevy of state and federal permits. > > “We have strategies in place to slow or delay all the permit processes,” Ed Cable, chairman of the anti-Hyperion group Save Union County, said after the vote. These fucking people need to realize, alterative fuels with the support systems needed for changing the curret infrastructure doesn’t happen overnight. If they still want their starbucks coffee and SUV’s to go trekking through the mountains, we need more refineries and have to tap more national oil resources like oil shale in colorado, The alaskan reserves, and parts of the california coast in order to sustain us and bolster the economy to create these new jobs and companies gears towards alternative energy. Right now things are starting to fold so how in the hell can people expect there to be research or companies willing to take the risks to find and implement these new resources when a lot of technology and products use oil in several different ways. This goes way beyond just fuel issues. What should be going on in D.C. is everyone need to stop and think, ok this is absoultely rediculous and spend money on self sustaining supplies or go into more agreements with Canada and Mexico, and at the same time start blitzing techology that will make the vehicles way more efficient so this doesn’t happen again or atleast be better prepared for it. All these tree huggers are do now is delaying shit including research and a better way of life for the tail end of our generation and future generations. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/23 "2008-06-11T07:30:22Z")
again, if we drive cars that use less fuel, we can take longer to develop alternative fuel infrastructure. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/24 "2008-06-11T07:54:29Z")
> [@Prodrive to enter Formula1 in '08](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/prodrive-to-enter-formula1-in-08/11377/6): > > again, if we drive cars that use less fuel, we can take longer to develop alternative fuel infrastructure. still need new refineries that are updated and more efficent ---
**Author:** ![1st\_v-dub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ee7513/32.png) [@1st\_v-dub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1st_v-dub)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/25 "2008-06-11T09:21:45Z")
> [@R.I.P. tempered nissan glass.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/r-i-p-tempered-nissan-glass/36795/8): > > All these tree huggers are do now is delaying shit including research and a better way of life for the tail end of our generation and future generations. if we continue to rape the earth of all of it’s natural resources there will be no future generations. and online petitions work, really they do:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/26 "2008-06-11T09:43:29Z")
> [@Day Crew or Night Crew?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/day-crew-or-night-crew/36748/49): > > if we continue to rape the earth of all of it’s natural resources there will be no future generations. > > and online petitions work, really they do:rolleyes: So what does delaying everything do? Sometimes sacrifices need to be made in order to make advancements. ---
**Author:** ![1st\_v-dub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ee7513/32.png) [@1st\_v-dub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1st_v-dub)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/27 "2008-06-11T09:51:11Z")
> [@Anyone have a Blackberry(pearl) or Blackjack from AT&T?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-have-a-blackberry-pearl-or-blackjack-from-at-t/36797/2): > > So what does delaying everything do? > > Sometimes sacrifices need to be made in order to make advancements. my hope would be that delays would allow officials to think more critically about the situation rather than going into something “guns-a-blazing”. ---
**Author:** ![8Grand](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/8grand/32/5940_2.png) [@8Grand](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/8Grand)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/28 "2008-06-11T10:48:09Z")
> [@Anyone have a Blackberry(pearl) or Blackjack from AT&T?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-have-a-blackberry-pearl-or-blackjack-from-at-t/36797/3): > > my hope would be that delays would allow officials to think more critically about the situation rather than going into something “guns-a-blazing”. We’re talking about the people that occupy the upper 10% of the financial food chain… these people dont give a fuck about anything else but their pocket books. Thats the same mentality that got the world fucked when it comes to oil as it is. ---
**Author:** ![04Mustang232](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/df788c/32.png) [@04Mustang232](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/04Mustang232)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/29 "2008-06-16T15:06:43Z")
> [@VW Bastard Child](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-bastard-child/36716/14): > > use less gas. > > less demand means lower prices. > > 7th grade business class economics FTW. > > $4 gas sucks, but I get 30mpg in the city and 40mpg on the highway. the shit could go to $6 before it would really affect me, and once i stop delivering pizza, i don’t give a fuck if i goes to $10. > > the answer is more cars the size of mine. i’d especially like to see them get highly efficient (turbo)diesel motors. we can scale back diesel emissions requirements (ours are MORE STRINGENT THAN EUROPE’S!), and crank out millions of economical cars without costly/intricate hybrid systems. > > and petitions are fucking retarded. it doesnt work that way with gas since its a global market. It would take alot of “using less gas” to make a dent. ---
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/30 "2008-06-17T08:33:27Z")
> use less gas. > > less demand means lower prices. > > 7th grade business class economics FTW. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Bravada\_442](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bravada_442/32/5982_2.png) [@Bravada\_442](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bravada_442)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/31 "2008-06-17T13:34:00Z")
> [@VW Bastard Child](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-bastard-child/36716/14): > > use less gas. > > less demand means lower prices. > > 7th grade business class economics FTW. I know you are so much smarter than that. Yes, very simply, that is how it is working. But the purely speculative idea behind oil and the free trade of it in stock markets around the world is what is really driving the price up. If less demand simply meant lower prices, then explain to me why worldwide demand dropped .4% in the 1st quarter this year yet prices went up 15%? It’s just not THAT easy right now. ---
**Author:** ![thefranchise](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/thefranchise/32/5951_2.png) [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/32 "2008-06-17T16:19:13Z")
> [@My AMS Evo](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-ams-evo/36825/45): > > I know you are so much smarter than that. Yes, very simply, that is how it is working. But the purely speculative idea behind oil and the free trade of it in stock markets around the world is what is really driving the price up. > > If less demand simply meant lower prices, then explain to me why worldwide demand dropped .4% in the 1st quarter this year yet prices went up 15%? > > It’s just not THAT easy right now. it very well IS that easy right now. the US is an oil hog hands down. if we cut back, we pay less. Top World Oil Consumers, 2006 (thousand barrels per day) Rank Country Consumption 1 United States 20,687 2 China 7,201 3 Japan 5,159 4 Russia 2,811 5 Germany 2,665 6 India 2,572 7 Canada 2,264 8 Brazil 2,217 9 Korea, South 2,174 10 Saudi Arabia 2,139 11 Mexico 1,997 12 France 1,961 13 United Kingdom 1,830 14 Italy 1,732 15 Iran 1,686 ANWAR is no magical solution. It will at best input ~5% increase in US production. We can easily save 15% of consumption by building/driving better cars. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/33 "2008-06-18T19:09:59Z")
> [@Who drives the charger with the plate...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-drives-the-charger-with-the-plate/36865/40): > > it very well IS that easy right now. the US is an oil hog hands down. if we cut back, we pay less. > > Top World Oil Consumers, 2006 > (thousand barrels per day) > Rank Country Consumption > 1 United States 20,687 > 2 China 7,201 > 3 Japan 5,159 > 4 Russia 2,811 > 5 Germany 2,665 > 6 India 2,572 > 7 Canada 2,264 > 8 Brazil 2,217 > 9 Korea, South 2,174 > 10 Saudi Arabia 2,139 > 11 Mexico 1,997 > 12 France 1,961 > 13 United Kingdom 1,830 > 14 Italy 1,732 > 15 Iran 1,686 > > ANWAR is no magical solution. It will at best input ~5% increase in US production. We can easily save 15% of consumption by building/driving better cars. Shane from out of fucking nowhere! :bowdown: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/34 "2008-06-19T12:00:05Z")
> [@Who drives the charger with the plate...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-drives-the-charger-with-the-plate/36865/40): > > it very well IS that easy right now. the US is an oil hog hands down. if we cut back, we pay less. > > Top World Oil Consumers, 2006 > (thousand barrels per day) > Rank Country Consumption > 1 United States 20,687 > 2 China 7,201 > 3 Japan 5,159 > 4 Russia 2,811 > 5 Germany 2,665 > 6 India 2,572 > 7 Canada 2,264 > 8 Brazil 2,217 > 9 Korea, South 2,174 > 10 Saudi Arabia 2,139 > 11 Mexico 1,997 > 12 France 1,961 > 13 United Kingdom 1,830 > 14 Italy 1,732 > 15 Iran 1,686 > > ANWAR is no magical solution. It will at best input ~5% increase in US production. We can easily save 15% of consumption by building/driving better cars. shane, did you see that china lifted their subsidiaries on oil … suppose to lower global overall costs :kekegay: ---
**Author:** ![liquid\_cool36](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/0ea827/32.png) [@liquid\_cool36](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/liquid_cool36)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800/35 "2008-06-29T09:34:07Z")
the truth is…becouse of the enviormental movement…we havent been drilling for oil…and as a matter of fact…we havent built a new refinery in over 30 years!..and to add to the mayham…in state’s like texas…there was a oil price per barrle set at$30…most texas wells are cappd becouse of that…its not that we dont have the oil…its that the government is in the way of getting it…everytime government sticks there hand in something it breaks!..and if your believing the “oil barrens” are raping us…then consider this…oil profit per gallon for exon/mobil ($0.09 per gallon profit)…9 cents per gallon profit…the goverments share! ($0.49) per gallon…on average…0.49 being in low states…heavy blue state’s are higher in taxation like new york…0.64 per gallon tax…who has the obsean profit now…:P…makes ya think …if government really wanted us to pay less they would drop the fed state taxation…but they dont…infact…most liberal politions think we should be paying the same as europe does…that its unfair we have a better life the the rest of the world…allso…if congress passes laws to punish big oil in the form of a profit tax!..we are screwd…bisnesses donot pay taxation!..they pass tax’s on to the consumers…all bisness does this…so that bill will just add fuel to the fire as prices contunue to soar!..god help us [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drill-our-own-oil-petition/197800.md?page=1)