# Driver School at Watkins Glen **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 26, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941 "2011-07-26T13:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/21 "2011-07-28T10:41:54Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > but the cost is definitely not as cheap as you make it sound. How much have you spent on your car, car payments just to daily drive it and take scenic pictures? I am willing to bet I have spent less money competitively wheel to wheel racing than your car has depreciated since new. ---
**Author:** ![FadetoBlack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fadetoblack/32/6118_2.png) [@FadetoBlack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FadetoBlack)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/22 "2011-07-28T10:44:22Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > O.K… $10 for used tires at Fox, which I have done for track days. So $40 total, really breaking the bank on that one. > > Direzzas will last 18-24 hours straight WITHOUT rotating, with rotation well over 48 hours, or about 24+ lapping days. $600 for the “big” sizes so $25 each track day for tire consumption. > > But I keep forgetting that excuses are free. :bloated: Can you seriously get tires that cheap at Fox? Do they do cheap mounting? The only thing is that the tires I’m currently running on the GP would be one of its stengths. Shame they were $650. Putting shitty used tires on might really detract from its abilities. > [@jgrotkier](#): > > I’ve seen a Taurus (the late body) and a Camry at the Glen with trackmasters. Any car can drive on the track. 99% of drivers are slower than their cars are capable of the first few times out anyway. LOL Now THAT makes me much more confident in taking it down there! I wonder if experience on the :snky: track counts for anything. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/23 "2011-07-28T10:50:39Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > How much have you spent on your car, car payments just to daily drive it and take scenic pictures? I am willing to bet I have spent less money competitively wheel to wheel racing than your car has depreciated since new. now you’re just grasping at straws I pay good money for my used car, but it gets me to work where I make a shitload more than I spend. Getting to and from work, gym, grocery store, are necessities for my life. New tires, brakes, safety equipment every season on top of track fees and hotel stays for a recreational activity is a costly venture for some. I’m not trying to knock it either. I am just saying that you are making it sound like it doesn’t cost hardly anything. Maybe to go out one time it’s cheap, but as a repeating activity, it’s expensive. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/24 "2011-07-28T11:23:51Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > now you’re just grasping at straws No, I’m not, your lifestyle choice is that you would rather have a nice DD than drive a car on track or in a race environment. You could still have the same reliable transportation in a cheaper DD and have money left over. My lifestyle choice is that I would rather spend more money racing than I would on A to B transportation (I still have that same G20). For me cars is about driving, not cruises, not picnics, not photo shoots, not meets, not owning the cleanest, rarest, swapiest. The ultimate form of driving is racing against other cars (or trees). Why more self proclaimed car enthusiast don’t make it to at the very least a track day beyond me. IMO nice DDs are a waste of money, racing is also a waste of money. If I were smart I would take up tennis. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/25 "2011-07-28T11:32:09Z")
you have a point on buying a cheaper DD, I guess I hope you fixed the seatbelt!! lol ---
**Author:** ![Jackie\_Chiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@Jackie\_Chiles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jackie_Chiles)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/26 "2011-07-28T17:46:29Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > No, I’m not, your lifestyle choice is that you would rather have a nice DD than drive a car on track or in a race environment. You could still have the same reliable transportation in a cheaper DD and have money left over. > > My lifestyle choice is that I would rather spend more money racing than I would on A to B transportation (I still have that same G20). For me cars is about driving, not cruises, not picnics, not photo shoots, not meets, not owning the cleanest, rarest, swapiest. The ultimate form of driving is racing against other cars (or trees). Why more self proclaimed car enthusiast don’t make it to at the very least a track day beyond me. > > IMO nice DDs are a waste of money, racing is also a waste of money. If I were smart I would take up tennis. Please don’t fuck up my otherwise awesome thread by taunting the wannabees. When and where is your next trackday? ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/27 "2011-07-28T18:31:58Z")
> [@Jackie Chiles](#): > > When and where is your next trackday? The car will be racing TMP Aug. 5th & 6th: [_ChumpCar TMP link_](http://chumpcar.com/event_pdfs/Toronto%202011%20Supplemental%20Rules.pdf) We will be doing the Funday @ Nelson Sept. 11th: [_Nelson Funday link_](http://nelsonledges.com/GOTSchedulesDetail.aspx?eventID=84&thisMonth=9) I would like to get some people in the cars for the 10th as well: [_Nelson University link_](http://nelsonledges.com/GOTSchedulesDetail.aspx?eventID=118&thisMonth=9) Then another “short” race starting 10 am Oct. 8th, and ending 12:25:25 pm Oct. 9th: [_ChumpCar Nelson link_](http://chumpcar.com/event_pdfs/Nelson%20Ledges%202011%20Supplemental%20Rules.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Jackie\_Chiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@Jackie\_Chiles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jackie_Chiles)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/28 "2011-07-29T06:54:20Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > The car will be racing TMP Aug. 5th & 6th: [_ChumpCar TMP link_](http://chumpcar.com/event_pdfs/Toronto%202011%20Supplemental%20Rules.pdf) > We will be doing the Funday @ Nelson Sept. 11th: [_Nelson Funday link_](http://nelsonledges.com/GOTSchedulesDetail.aspx?eventID=84&thisMonth=9) > I would like to get some people in the cars for the 10th as well: [_Nelson University link_](http://nelsonledges.com/GOTSchedulesDetail.aspx?eventID=118&thisMonth=9) > Then another “short” race starting 10 am Oct. 8th, and ending 12:25:25 pm Oct. 9th: [_ChumpCar Nelson link_](http://chumpcar.com/event_pdfs/Nelson%20Ledges%202011%20Supplemental%20Rules.pdf) Thanks. But I need more of a driver education event as my insurance will not cover me for a competitive event or trackday. How can I ID your car if I drop by TPM? ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941/29 "2011-07-29T08:26:52Z")
The Sept 10th event is a classroom, driver education type event, not sure how your insurance views it though. The car is #27. I can’t say that it will be a great event to watch as there are only 20 total cars. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driver-school-at-watkins-glen/214941.md?page=1)