# Driving Techniques **URL:** \ **Category:** Canada Nissan Automotive\ **Created:** [April 4, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322 "2007-04-04T03:08:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fcukven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fcukven1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fcukven1)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/1 "2007-04-04T03:08:11Z")
i found this and helped understand a little bit more before i hit the track [http://www.turnfast.com/tech\_driving/driving.shtml](http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/driving.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Inzane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b38774/32.png) [@Inzane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inzane)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/2 "2007-04-04T09:02:19Z")
> [@fcukven1](#): > > i found this and helped understand a little bit more before i hit the track > [http://www.turnfast.com/tech\_driving/driving.shtml](http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/driving.shtml) I don’t know if its just me and I need a double-jointed knee or something, but I can’t seem to bend my right leg like that while driving (not in my Z at least): Maybe my legs are too long… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Jamie1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_jamie1/32/3308_2.png) [@imported\_Jamie1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jamie1)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/3 "2007-04-04T09:05:58Z")
you have to remember in that pic you’re pressing down quite hard on the brake so it does line up. That being said you might be able to put half your foot on the brake and roll the side of your foot onto the gas to keep the revs up instead of using heel and toe. Really depends on the cars pedals and the size of your foot 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jdms13rhd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@jdms13rhd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdms13rhd)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/4 "2007-04-04T10:17:36Z")
thats how I’ve always done it so it must be you. I know lots of people that use there heel on the break and toe on the gas which I can never do. Its also harder in a LHD car unless you got some pumas 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Buddyworm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@Buddyworm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Buddyworm)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/5 "2007-04-04T14:58:08Z")
> [@Inzane](#): > > I don’t know if its just me and I need a double-jointed knee or something, but I can’t seem to bend my right leg like that while driving (not in my Z at least): > > Maybe my legs are too long… Check the Seating Position article on the website. Maybe that’s part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![RS13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@RS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RS13)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/6 "2007-04-04T16:32:50Z")
If you have your foot higher up on the brake (aka brake with the balls on your foot and not your toe) its alot easier. It all depends on the shoe i am wearing if i can do it too, wide shoe= lazy way ---
**Author:** ![beatshack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@beatshack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beatshack)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/7 "2007-04-04T16:47:25Z")
> [@Inzane](#): > > [quote=fcukven1]i found this and helped understand a little bit more before i hit the track > [http://www.turnfast.com/tech\_driving/driving.shtml](http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/driving.shtml) I don’t know if its just me and I need a double-jointed knee or something, but I can’t seem to bend my right leg like that while driving (not in my Z at least): Maybe my legs are too long…[/quote] My legs are long too, and i noticed lots of tall guys (like taniguchi) do more of a foot-roll off the brake pedal than a crazy pigeon-toe-and-heel method like tsuchiya. ---
**Author:** ![fcukven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fcukven1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fcukven1)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/8 "2007-04-04T17:48:58Z")
i was testing out the theory ball of feet on the brake and had to adjust my steering wheel a bit higher so my knee doesnt hit the steering wheel and got to do it a couple of times while downshifting and bringing back up the rpm’s so it works. But if your tall or have huge feet or whatever the reason that it works better for you to roll then i would do it that way, for me i got some pumas actually 2 pairs so the roll doesnt work i have to heel-toe ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Mcclleland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@Evan\_Mcclleland](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Evan_Mcclleland)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/9 "2007-04-09T19:58:18Z")
im 6’3, and i cant physically bend to get my feet in that position… but i still figure something out ---
**Author:** ![Invalid\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@Invalid\_Zero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Invalid_Zero)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/10 "2007-04-09T20:21:47Z")
> [@RS13](#): > > If you have your foot higher up on the brake (aka brake with the balls on your foot and not your toe) its alot easier. It all depends on the shoe i am wearing if i can do it too, wide shoe= lazy way Lazy my ass. I’m 6’3" with size 13 feet. If I put the ball of my foot on the pedal to do it the JDM tyte way, my heel will hit the tranny tunnel. So I would have to position the arch of my foot on the brake pedal which would be dangerous as hell since that part of the foot has far less control and feel than the ball. Round eye heel-toe works great for me, and I can do it in every car I’ve ever driven, no problem. ---
**Author:** ![Inzane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b38774/32.png) [@Inzane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inzane)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/11 "2007-04-10T09:35:33Z")
> [@Invalid Zero](#): > > **Round eye** heel-toe works great for me. What does that refer to? ---
**Author:** ![beatshack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@beatshack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beatshack)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/12 "2007-04-10T10:33:52Z")
lol roundeye = 95% of the people on this forum. a bit of a racial slur towards caucasian people, but its kinda funny so i dont mind :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Inzane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b38774/32.png) [@Inzane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inzane)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/13 "2007-04-10T10:56:59Z")
> [@beatshack](#): > > lol roundeye = 95% of the people on this forum. > > a bit of a racial slur towards caucasian people, but its kinda funny so i dont mind :lol: LOL… ok. So does that mean the “roll the foot” method mentioned as opposed to the diagram above? ---
**Author:** ![Invalid\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@Invalid\_Zero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Invalid_Zero)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/14 "2007-04-10T11:29:58Z")
I’m white so I can say honky, cracker, etc… all day long. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![reeskm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reeskm/32/5819_2.png) [@reeskm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reeskm)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/15 "2007-04-17T00:08:50Z")
I heard a rumor that on some nissan’s, the stock pedals are really hard to heel-toe. I heard that getting a decent aftermarket set of pedals will help with this cause they have have a larger contact pad and bring the gas and brake pedals more flush with each other. Anybody else agree/heard of this? ---
**Author:** ![Invalid\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@Invalid\_Zero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Invalid_Zero)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/16 "2007-04-17T00:11:27Z")
No and no. ---
**Author:** ![Therin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@Therin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Therin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/17 "2007-04-17T16:11:17Z")
i just went from a honda to my s14 and i can tell you my s14 is about a million times easier to heel-toe. btw, if that diagram way doesnt work for you, put your heel on the break and toe on the gas, its how i do it and it works great. ---
**Author:** ![shorti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@shorti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/shorti)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/18 "2007-04-19T02:30:23Z")
I don’t remember ever heel-toeing in my old Civic but when I had my Roadster I could heel toe like a mother fucker. That car was made for late braking and damn it was fun. But with my (new) gtir it just feels…odd. The pedal position just doesn’t feel right and I haven’t got comfortable heel-toeing yet. If you ever watch some Type R Best Motoring vids (I know, blasphemy :roll: ) you’ll notice that they have very small pedals and some of the guys’ feet are almost sideways. That’s the way I do it, none of this round eye crap. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![shorti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@shorti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/shorti)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/19 "2007-04-19T02:32:37Z")
> [@Therin](#): > > btw, if that diagram way doesnt work for you, put your heel on the break and toe on the gas, its how i do it and it works great. That’s just not right. The point of heel-toeing is to modulate the brake while “blipping” the gas. How do you have any feeling through your heel? ---
**Author:** ![Therin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@Therin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Therin)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/driving-techniques/146322/20 "2007-04-19T08:47:02Z")
I dunno, i’m in tune with my body? i can do it, i cant turn my feet to left like the diagram, but i can turn it to the right. I also do the wide foot roll over way, which is how i learned. But I find that the actual heel toe method is faster than the round-eye way. Feeling comes from practice. I couldnt feel shit when i first started and i went thru an entire clutch learning how do it the way that works best more for me. I’m now in the process of teaching my girlfriend how to do it and she is getting it pretty quick, but she can turn her feet the proper way. i gotta learn how to incorperate this into drfiting now.