# DSG vs Manual: 2012 Jetta GLI **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [May 24, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885 "2012-05-24T18:24:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/1 "2012-05-24T18:24:43Z")
:dunno Which would you choose, and why? ---
**Author:** ![xreaction](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xreaction/32/6409_2.png) [@xreaction](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xreaction)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/2 "2012-05-24T18:28:00Z")
Manual, because I do not care for DSGs. I feel more “in control” of the car when i roll thru the gears on my own ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/3 "2012-05-24T18:36:56Z")
The manual in the GLI is really easy to drive if it’s anything like the MK6 GTI. ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/4 "2012-05-24T19:30:20Z")
stop by the store, i have one of both see which one you like more for yourself oh and FYI, the 40k service requires you to do a $250 service just to flush the transmission ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/5 "2012-05-24T19:33:13Z")
Id much rather have a real stick shift than a wannabe stick shift. Shifting an automatic once or twice is cool, after that its completely pointless. My mother has a manually shifted automatic in her car and I really dont understand the point of it. She never uses that feature. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/6 "2012-05-24T19:37:01Z")
DSG is more like a manual than an auto… Just an FYI for the PJB’ers ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/7 "2012-05-24T19:39:31Z")
> [@TW: 07 Cobalt SS/SC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-07-cobalt-ss-sc/44311/75): > > stop by the store, i have one of both > > see which one you like more for yourself > > oh and FYI, the 40k service requires you to do a $250 service just to flush the transmission PM’d > [@WTT: d-series transmission](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtt-d-series-transmission/49684/2): > > Id much rather have a real stick shift than a wannabe stick shift. > > Shifting an automatic once or twice is cool, after that its completely pointless. My mother has a manually shifted automatic in her car and I really dont understand the point of it. She never uses that feature. The Direct Shift Gearbox is much different than a conventional automatic with manual mode. It changes gears like a manual with quick, firm shifts. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/8 "2012-05-24T19:45:22Z")
but cant you just put it in drive and go when you dont feel like shifting it? ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/9 "2012-05-24T19:47:53Z")
That’s the beauty of it. The maintenance doesn’t necessarily bother me, it’s the reliability. ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/10 "2012-05-24T20:12:38Z")
I have a DSG 2008 GTI. The DSG is awesome. Am I driving to work at 7am half awake? Throw it in D and just save gas. Do I want to have fun w/o thinking? Put it in Sport and let it upshift and downshift (with rev matching) for you. Want to have full control? Put it in manual mode and hammer on the flappy paddles. All that said. It does not have the same involvement as a normal stick shift. Your left foot is still bored. But it is the best compromise. Able to get 30+ mpg, and able to be blistering fast. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/11 "2012-05-24T20:22:01Z")
I know AMDISTHEBEST has the DSG in his TDI, hopefully he’ll chime in with his two cents. ---
**Author:** ![Phate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Phate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/12 "2012-05-24T21:09:20Z")
Did they put a real rear suspension in the GLI’s or do they still have the lame twist beam? I don’t have a lot of experience with a DSG, but the best way I can describe it is that its basically just like gran turismo. Hit R1 for upshifts, R2 for downshifts. Pretty cool, I’d like to play with one more, but its likely pretty odd feeling not having any clutch control. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/13 "2012-05-24T21:12:29Z")
I’d get the DSG. You get the best (possibly better) of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/14 "2012-05-24T21:22:49Z")
> [@FS: blown 300ZX](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-blown-300zx/49639/85): > > Did they put a real rear suspension in the GLI’s or do they still have the lame twist beam? > > I don’t have a lot of experience with a DSG, but the best way I can describe it is that its basically just like gran turismo. Hit R1 for upshifts, R2 for downshifts. Pretty cool, I’d like to play with one more, but its likely pretty odd feeling not having any clutch control. 4 wheel independent on the GLI. It’s a sweet daily driver. I’m going to drive both but I think I’d want the manual. It’s the same powertrain as the GTI and that thing with a stick is easy to drive. The GLI has hillstart assist too haha. Fucking new cars and their amenities ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/15 "2012-05-24T21:34:51Z")
DSG is sick. When I buy new S4, it will be a DSG. Wish my new ride was! Paddle shifters are so fun. Nick will chime in I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/16 "2012-05-24T21:38:03Z")
I’ve talked to AMD about it and he loves it. I drove an R32 with DSG and loved it. Would buy one. ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/17 "2012-05-24T21:39:39Z")
Only thing I don’t like about my DSG is the car sounds like it is farting when I shift while on it. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/18 "2012-05-24T21:40:54Z")
In regards to the APR ECU upgrade - any idea if that DSG can handle 300+ tq for 100,000 miles? ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/19 "2012-05-24T21:50:20Z")
I’ve had my stage 1 APR upgrade for over a year. no problems, aside from traction. No slippage even when I use launch control. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885/20 "2012-05-24T21:51:26Z")
The GLI doesn’t have launch control which = teh suck. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual-2012-jetta-gli/263885.md?page=2)