# DSG Vs. Manual **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 11, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383 "2011-01-11T19:37:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/21 "2011-01-13T10:53:47Z")
it’s going to be in every car come 5 or 6 years. only because it’s a great way to squeeze a few more MPG’s out of an engine ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/22 "2011-01-13T11:08:58Z")
The autos in the VW’s especially have come a long way. I hated them too, way too slow to shift, way too soft a shift, never did it when you wanted them to, etc. I am very impressed with my 06 Passat 6sp auto. The shifts are rather quick and sharp. The 6 speed is nicely spaced gears. highway 70mph passes I dont even use the kick down, drop a single gear and your in boost and it pulls very nicely. Kickdown actually goes too far and relines it and you actually pull slower. The sport mode is slightly more aggressive. not night and day but its different. Manual mode actually seems slower than the sport… maybe its just me. While its not a DSG, its very impressive. I have yet to drive a dsg, I really want to. ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/23 "2011-01-13T12:29:44Z")
PDK\>DSG only due to downshifts tho ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/24 "2011-01-13T12:53:36Z")
> [@Monster Java energy drink](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/monster-java-energy-drink/38722/3): > > PDK\>DSG only due to downshifts tho What’s the difference? ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/25 "2011-01-13T12:54:39Z")
faster down shifts and .0002 faster upshifts lol only for 40k more ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/26 "2011-01-13T13:12:46Z")
i fucking HATED the e46 m3 dsgs. worst. transmission. ever. and eman, plus rep homie! flappy paddles are for girls. ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/27 "2011-01-13T13:17:28Z")
bmw’s dsg’s are junk, well not the mechanical part, only the programming part, if they spend more time programming, then it would be worlds better ---
**Author:** ![GermanPSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/germanpsi/32/6353_2.png) [@GermanPSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GermanPSI)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/28 "2011-01-13T13:53:41Z")
.0002 faster really!?!?!?!? Huge difference ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/29 "2011-01-13T13:57:34Z")
not really, it’s faster then that but i’m just saying, it’s a much more aggressive shifting setup… it will let you downshift the second it knows you will be right at redline, where dsg waits till about 300 to 250 rpms below redline before it will down shift plus the upshifts **can** be WAY more aggressive ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/30 "2011-01-13T14:07:57Z")
little side bar. GT-R’s transmissions are made by borg-warner, which also makes the PDK’s from porsche GT-R’s launch control will void your warranty Porsche’s Launch control is something they PUSH for customers to do ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/31 "2011-01-13T14:09:44Z")
> [@Illegal alien? Come to NY and we'll give you a drivers license](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-alien-come-to-ny-and-well-give-you-a-drivers-license/35859/135): > > bmw’s dsg’s are junk, well not the mechanical part, only the programming part, if they spend more time programming, then it would be worlds better you mean smg’s ---
**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/32 "2011-01-13T14:13:06Z")
> [@crazybrew609"](#): > > faster down shifts and .0002 faster upshifts lol only for 40k more Nothing a little programming can’t fix as I’m sure that’s most of the difference: [http://www.hpamotorsport.com/dsg.htm](http://www.hpamotorsport.com/dsg.htm) ---
**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/33 "2011-01-13T14:31:43Z")
programming yes, but they also make them quite a bit strong, for obvious reasons ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/34 "2011-01-14T05:13:26Z")
ill leave DSG’s for the F1 and Rally cars. doesnt take much skill to hit a button. i think Nick just needs to stop money shifting his S4. haha jk buddy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/35 "2011-01-14T05:15:58Z")
DSG is the future. All will bow down. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/36 "2011-01-14T05:20:18Z")
> [@need help: lifting my jimmy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-help-lifting-my-jimmy/38707/10): > > DSG is the future. All will bow down. the future of what, gays driving sports cars and thinking they are fast because they can hit the big pedal on the right? ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/37 "2011-01-14T05:26:06Z")
Everything is going towards it. Bye bye manual ☹ ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/38 "2011-01-14T05:31:35Z")
maybe u can drive it and while ur at it wear these… ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/39 "2011-01-14T05:35:25Z")
Fuck I hate those. Fuckin’ clowns in the gym walking around in them. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/40 "2011-01-14T05:37:33Z")
> [@Holy sleeper batman!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/holy-sleeper-batman/38716/31): > > Fuck I hate those. Fuckin’ clowns in the gym walking around in them. my brother wears them, lifts hard and heavy and i told him im never lifting with him again. haha. it turned into this huge conversation about me being insecure and me telling him he was FUCKING GAY!!! hahaha [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383.md?page=3)