# DSG Vs. Manual

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [January 11, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383 "2011-01-11T19:37:54Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/61 "2011-01-18T05:17:07Z")

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true, but the PDK system for porsche can handle anywhere from 255hp to 550hp. i know your talking about the VW’s in particular but once the aftermarket catches up i’m sure they will start coming out with stuff. It would be like changing a clutch pack in an automatic now, plus you have to look at each clutch pack like a mini multi-disc clutch setup which allows for very high power levels before upgrading.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/62 "2011-01-18T05:23:27Z")

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> [@FS: 89 CRX turbo d series](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-89-crx-turbo-d-series/38750/17):
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> Remember that the computer has control of everything now with DSG. I doubt there is any torque coming from the engine during up shifts. It will close the TB, pull timing, and probably throw a trouble code if the clutch did slip. And all this happens much faster than you could hid the paddle to begin with. Which makes me wonder… If it could be programed to be even faster and more consistent in auto.

yes, they already do this

plus the auto learns the driving habits of the driver and will adjust accordingly. if your 80 and barely on the gas then the shifts will be slow and long for smoothness. If you race from stop light to stop light the transmission will make short, fast shifts

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**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/63 "2011-01-18T05:25:29Z")

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I don’t think that the average Golf, Jetta, ect. Has the traction to make upgrading the DSG necessary. Maybe if you add a set of DR or slicks. Or in the case of the R32 Golf, AWD.

as far as other manufacturers with higher torque engines with heavier cars. They will obviously need larger clutches with more discs in the clutch packs.

This interests me considering I just did the Home Depot DIY shift kit in my Grand Slam. I like quick crisp shifts.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/64 "2011-01-18T08:59:22Z")

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I \<3 DSG

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