# DSG Vs. Manual

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [January 11, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383 "2011-01-11T19:37:54Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dsg-vs-manual/256383/48 "2011-01-14T05:56:17Z")

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> [@snowboard/ski season! whos ready!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowboard-ski-season-whos-ready/38744/5):
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> o and while your DSG’s are slipping at high hp, my gears will be holding with delight! 🙂

The APR stage 4 video that Stallmer posted is on stock DSG box. No programming or physical mods. I don’t know what kind of power it’s making but I’d guess over 400whp. Also, it is a manual so the only thing to slip would be the clutch, which can happen on a manual.

> [@Free range rover mods FTW.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/free-range-rover-mods-ftw/38655/71):
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> whats the weight difference between the DSG car and 6spd car? STOCK whp number differences?
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> With all the loss through ANY automatic trans car, I still dont understand why REAL sports cars sometimes ditch the manual option all together.

I think the DSG unit weighs about 100lbs more then then manual. Remember, the DSG is not an auto and has nearly identical loss as a traditional manual transmission.

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