# Dude, i totally have a 97 german import jetta...\*rant\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 26, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087 "2006-09-26T23:48:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/21 "2006-09-27T16:50:01Z")
> [@DarkkstaR](#): > > SIQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQQQQQQQ! ---
**Author:** ![Sc1chik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sc1chik/32/7243_2.png) [@Sc1chik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sc1chik)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/22 "2006-09-27T17:12:36Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > Is the turbo tranny mod available for the MKIV’s? one can only assume it’s for the german import jetta… ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/23 "2006-09-27T17:34:19Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > ^I’m going to undercut you with cardboard paper towel tubes! JDM paper towel tubes. :snky: Old rolled up newspaper \> \* I’ll even stretch the paper tubes for that euro style. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/24 "2006-09-27T17:38:03Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > I’ll even stretch the paper tubes for that euro style. :tup: :lol: ---
**Author:** ![JettaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JettaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JettaX)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/25 "2006-09-27T18:15:19Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > good for you, im sure there is alot of honda,chevy,ford,isuzu,toyota ect… owners who can say the same thing. > > im not a die hard VW fan or anything, but like any other car out there…they are bound to have problems. > > differnt people have differnt luck nope. they all suck ---
**Author:** ![RedConquestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redconquesttsi/32/7326_2.png) [@RedConquestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedConquestTSi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/26 "2006-09-27T18:36:32Z")
> [@JettaX](#): > > Thats funny i got rid of my VW at 60k miles and i started having problems with it when it had about 150 miles on it. It was piece of shit from day one. I also could write a huge list of the problems i had but i have done it before and don’t care to do it right now. Thats why i will never buy another VW. > [@sedlmeier101](#): > > good for you, im sure there is alot of honda,chevy,ford,isuzu,toyota ect… owners who can say the same thing. You must not forget the blessed Pre-DSM and DSM owners… I think DSM owners have it worse then VW owners IMHO… ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/27 "2006-09-27T19:18:33Z")
> [@RedConquestTSi](#): > > You must not forget the blessed Pre-DSM and DSM owners… > > I think DSM owners have it worse then VW owners IMHO… Technically with a DSM a repair is a straight forward and almost constant process. Verus VW where they just over-engineer everything around the broken parts to make it look fancy. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/28 "2006-09-27T21:17:33Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > Verus VW where they just over-engineer everything around the broken parts to make it look fancy. Also making them a shit ton more expensive to fix when compared to ohhhh say honda. And I know this. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/29 "2006-09-27T22:29:41Z")
lolz,the curse of the 97.Please tell me its not black,mine is black and I dont want to be mistaken for a turd. O/T…when does the chain need to be done on a 97? ---
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/30 "2006-09-27T22:40:12Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > Technically with a DSM a repair is a straight forward and almost constant process. ehh, not really. in almost all dsm’s defense, a well maintained and taken car of dsm will be pretty reliable. an awd, turbo car, especially one that has been around since 1989, is really hard to NOT beat the piss out of. now fbods, those just suck 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/31 "2006-09-27T22:43:47Z")
ehhhhh, they dont every really need to be done in my opinion. my car was at 170k and i never changed them. yes, they were loud. if you have bad compression, or need to drop the tranny to do the clutch and your over 100k or so better check to see how the guides are holding up. change them if you want, the parts are relativly cheap but its a pain in the ass job. just keep driving it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/32 "2006-09-28T06:12:03Z")
> [@94wvwglxvr6](#): > > ehhhhh, they dont every really need to be done in my opinion. my car was at 170k and i never changed them. yes, they were loud. if you have bad compression, or need to drop the tranny to do the clutch and your over 100k or so better check to see how the guides are holding up. change them if you want, the parts are relativly cheap but its a pain in the ass job. > > just keep driving it 🙂 Please do not listen to him. If you want to get a run down of vr6 maintenance, PM me and we can discuss. Tsk,tsk JAM. ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/33 "2006-09-28T08:22:42Z")
> [@Jon](#): > > lolz,the curse of the 97.Please tell me its not black,mine is black and I dont want to be mistaken for a turd. > > O/T…when does the chain need to be done on a 97? most say do them between 70 and 100K. how many miles is on your car? your average 97 should probably have them done by now IMO. while you are in there do the water pump too. EDIT: should have read the whole thread. definitely talk to jaeger (VR6 genius) ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/34 "2006-09-28T09:46:36Z")
> [@Dex](#): > > most say do them between 70 and 100K. how many miles is on your car? your average 97 should probably have them done by now IMO. while you are in there do the water pump too. > > EDIT: should have read the whole thread. definitely talk to jaeger (VR6 genius) pretty sure the water pump is run off the serp belt… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/35 "2006-09-28T09:55:19Z")
^Yeah but they’re known to fail. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/36 "2006-09-28T09:58:01Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > ^Yeah but they’re known to fail. i know, mine did, its a really straight foreward job, and dosent have to be done before the pump starts pissing. but thats just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087/37 "2006-09-28T10:03:45Z")
^Makes sense. You have to draw the line somewhere between preventative maintenance and if-it-ain’t-broke-don’t-fix-it. For someone with my time and ability, my chains are going to get awfully noisy before I worry about it. Plus I think they revised the guides sometime before my car was built so they last longer. I don’t know if my water pump is a likely failure, but again it’ll wait till it’s a problem. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dude-i-totally-have-a-97-german-import-jetta-rant/18087.md?page=1)