# Dunnville Autodrome SHUT DOWN by locals: \*Please Sign Our Petition!\*

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [August 19, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336 "2009-08-19T12:47:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/101 "2009-08-26T09:11:52Z")

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Seriously fuck off TMP. These are two very different tracks. I can’t see any reason that they should have been involved in this issue.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/102 "2009-08-26T09:16:53Z")

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Money. That’s why. They assume that anyone who was going to Dunnville will travel further, and pay almost twice as much for a track that clearly doesn’t support the community.

WRONG.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/103 "2009-08-26T09:23:27Z")

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I think is really sucks that any residents have any say in the track being shut down. The judge should have said to the residents, “STFU”.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/104 "2009-08-26T09:24:15Z")

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Is ther an e-mail we can voice our opinions and thoughts to? Petition maybe?

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**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/105 "2009-08-26T09:25:53Z")

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Big :tdown: to TMP. That track fucking sucks anyway. As they said in the article it really is a shame about dunnville, it was a great track for beginners and it was great place to hold our events because of that.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/106 "2009-08-26T09:43:32Z")

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Here are a few examples of somethings that TMP COULD have done that would have been beneficial to them and the automotive community.

1. Shown support for a fellow track who caters to enthusiasts.
2. Made a promotional offer for lower track prices at TMP in order to try and lure some of Dunnvilles business without being total assholes about it.
3. Make a public statement that they regret to see such a business go under and hope the best for them.
4. Deaded themselves.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/107 "2009-08-26T09:46:29Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> Here are a few examples of somethings that TMP COULD have done that would have been beneficial to them and the automotive community.
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> 1. Shown support for a fellow track who caters to enthusiasts.
> 2. Made a promotional offer for lower track prices at TMP in order to try and lure some of Dunnvilles business without being total assholes about it.
> 3. Make a public statement that they regret to see such a business go under and hope the best for them.
> 4. Deaded themselves.

How are any of those good business ideas? lol

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/108 "2009-08-26T09:48:35Z")

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Because it makes them look GOOD in the eyes of the automotive community. If they can build a good relationship with more people through this by at least getting them up there, it would turn into repeat business from those people and long term financial gain.

EDIT - except the last one. lol

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/109 "2009-08-26T09:50:19Z")

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So next time Walmart trys to build somewhere and local residents complain and get it stopped Target should jump in and help…

I don’t agree with the track getting shut down but I don’t see what you expected TMP to do…

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/110 "2009-08-26T09:54:12Z")

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This isn’t a global chain, it’s much more local and personal with it’s customers. I didn’t say they **should** have done those things, but doing them could have wound up being good things for them. They basically just kicked Dunnville when they were down, it was completely unnecessary and shows a complete lack of dignity.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/111 "2009-08-26T09:55:35Z")

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[neale@speed7racing.com](mailto:neale@speed7racing.com)

let him know how you feel. I’m going to.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/112 "2009-08-26T09:56:47Z")

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^and who is this?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/113 "2009-08-26T09:57:02Z")

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Just out of curiosity for everyone bitching…

Did anyone actually do anything to help keep the track open? Petition, letters to local officals?

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/114 "2009-08-26T09:57:51Z")

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I shaved the dunnville track in my ass hair as protest.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/115 "2009-08-26T10:01:51Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> ^and who is this?

The man from TMP who snitched on Dunnville at the hearing.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/116 "2009-08-26T10:05:43Z")

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I believe the words you are looking for are “spoke against” not snitched. This isn’t some shitty mob movie.

> [@LZ](#):
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> Just out of curiosity for everyone bitching…
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> Did anyone actually do anything to help keep the track open? Petition, letters to local officals?

Several of the regulars in our group that attended Onyx track days signed petitions and donated to the legal fees of the track.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/117 "2009-08-26T10:07:27Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Several of the regulars in our group that attended Onyx track days signed petitions and donated to the legal fees of the track.

Ah cool :tup:

I hate when people rant after the fact and did nothing to try to prevent.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/118 "2009-08-26T10:10:03Z")

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Well, it was like 10-12 people total, 4 of which are in this thread. So a mild :picard:

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/119 "2009-08-26T10:43:44Z")

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I don’t think enough was done by the owners of the track to educate people of how serious the legal battle was. I sat around talking with who I think was Lee at the 2nd to last Onyx event and he made it sound like it was just a matter of maybe getting hit with some sound restrictions. Reading through the legal notes post closure it’s pretty clear the issues were far more serious.

Now maybe they were being painted a rosy picture by their attorneys or maybe it was a business decision because they were afraid if people thought a closing was eminent they wouldn’t book time… I don’t know. But I think the track users would have been more involved had they known more.

Really though, I doubt it would matter. Most of us aren’t even citizens of the country, much less tax paying residents of the town of Dunnville. And when it comes to who zoning boards listen to it’s going to be the people paying the taxes.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dunnville-autodrome-shut-down-by-locals-please-sign-our-petition/72336/120 "2009-08-26T10:54:59Z")

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Yea, i had no idea that closing was gong to happen, i just figured they would have to put up sound barriers

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