# DYNO Shops in Alberta

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677>\
**Category:** Canada Nissan Automotive\
**Created:** [September 5, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677 "2008-09-05T08:42:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Voodoo\_Child](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/voodoo_child/32/5832_2.png) [@Voodoo\_Child](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Voodoo_Child)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/21 "2010-01-31T18:59:35Z")

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> [@Need PC nerd help so dozer can get pics...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-pc-nerd-help-so-dozer-can-get-pics/6782/8):
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> If one really wanted to get the project done properly, it is best to research the f…ck out of whatever you are doing and doing it yourself. This is why I don’t let enybody touch my car, I do the research and build evrything. This includes the turbo kit.
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> All the shops in Alberta are run by red necks that don’t know shit about cars. I was in one shop getting a couple of dyno pulls and took note of the “custom” turbo kit one of the techs was doing. Holly sh!t, that crafsmenship was absolutly horrible. Worst welds I have ever seen, and everything else that goes with it.
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> I don’t think abybody has an actual trained professional in any of the shops, not to mention that they just don’t give a crap. You can tell this when you mention the EMS that you want to use…they will tell you that it’s crap…bla bla bla…you should buy this and that. What they really mean is that they don’t know how to tune it, well if you are a shop with a dyno you should be able to tune whatever the car comes with…
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> FYI, Martin at AFI is the last place I would ever go to get anything done. The guy is drunk most of the time.

Seeing as how you are an expert, why don’t you open up a shop to compete with us dumbass rednecks. It’s idiots like you that give professional mechanics a bad name considering you don’t know shit about half the crap you spit out. If you are having such a hard time trying to find someone to tune your shit, do like you said and do it yourself and stop blaming those of us that have spent tens of thousands of dollars on school and tools to learn how to fix your stupid fucking ride.:cursing:

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**Author:** ![Revolution\_Motorspor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Revolution\_Motorspor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Revolution_Motorspor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/22 "2010-01-31T20:15:36Z")

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> [@Does anyone get a Discount on Sunglasses?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/does-anyone-get-a-discount-on-sunglasses/6800/2):
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> That is true about having a dyno. However it all boils down to monitoring knock and and a/f ratio, that is 80% of you tune right there. All the EMS’s out there are basically the same, and so are all the internal combustions engine (except the rotary) Knowing to pull timing and add fuel at peak torque for example is elementary knowledge regardles of what the EMS is.
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> Who do you think is a rputable tuner? I am not saying there isn’t one, but I am asking.

Well I consider myself a good tuner. I know that know one else has tuned a 4 cylinder to anywhere near what I have tuned my own car to just by the trap speeds everyone is running. Lots of guys can talk about “dyno #'s” but Mph at the track doesn’t lie, or can’t be altered like a dyno graph can. Also are you talking about a tune, or a WOT tune? Also I was replying more to your statement about the quality of work and shops here. I like to think Revolution puts out top quality work and I think anyone that has seen mine or any of my customers cars would agree. I just finished building several bars, and cages for some customers that turned out better then what they were expecting and two of them are what I consider to be real picky/anal. 🙂

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**Author:** ![350zT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e68b1a/32.png) [@350zT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/350zT)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/23 "2010-01-31T21:27:08Z")

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> [@Voodoo Child"](#):
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> Seeing as how you are an expert, why don’t you open up a shop to compete with us dumbass rednecks. It’s idiots like you that give professional mechanics a bad name considering you don’t know shit about half the crap you spit out. If you are having such a hard time trying to find someone to tune your shit, do like you said and do it yourself and stop blaming those of us that have spent tens of thousands of dollars on school and tools to learn how to fix your stupid fucking ride.:cursing:

Calm down buddy, I am just telling you what I have seen. I do my own tuning and building. Nobody touches any of my cars, ever, and don’t get me going on professional mechanics. I ask people at the track who worked on their car (aftermarket FI stuff) and have a very good idea who does what. Intercooler piping made out of mig welded aluminized steel…GTFO. Get an AC/DC tig welder and learn how to do it right.

This is what a weld should look like:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/6/063325e4c95781e81ef3b8a4c41d4d442071d1f5.jpeg)

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And this is what I build:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/6/d6308a369da46f90e86439dfbecdb8a7047f382f.jpeg)

So don’t think you are talking to some 17 year old with a Civic.

> [@FS: Parting out 92 CIVIC EX with DX motor](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-parting-out-92-civic-ex-with-dx-motor/6673/27):
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> Well I consider myself a good tuner. I know that know one else has tuned a 4 cylinder to anywhere near what I have tuned my own car to just by the trap speeds everyone is running. Lots of guys can talk about “dyno #'s” but Mph at the track doesn’t lie, or can’t be altered like a dyno graph can. Also are you talking about a tune, or a WOT tune? Also I was replying more to your statement about the quality of work and shops here. I like to think Revolution puts out top quality work and I think anyone that has seen mine or any of my customers cars would agree. I just finished building several bars, and cages for some customers that turned out better then what they were expecting and two of them are what I consider to be real picky/anal. 🙂

Ron, I was talking about WOT tuning, and you are right, track numbers don’t lie. I have seen your car at the track, very nicely done. Good to see some still do take pride in their work.

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**Author:** ![Revolution\_Motorspor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Revolution\_Motorspor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Revolution_Motorspor)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/24 "2010-02-01T06:05:40Z")

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Thanks my primary focus now is fabrication from cages to down pipes and exhausts.

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**Author:** ![Voodoo\_Child](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/voodoo_child/32/5832_2.png) [@Voodoo\_Child](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Voodoo_Child)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/25 "2010-02-01T09:21:32Z")

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Sorry to be so defensive, I just don’t like being thought of as a dumbass redneck. There are some of us out there that DO know what we are doing. You also need to keep in mind that you live in northern Alberta where tuning and performance cars are a waste of time, and we make no money working on them. That is why tuner shops are so scarce around here. I support the “DIY” attitude, just don’t blame the mechanic for trying to fix your mistakes. I deal with the aftermath of do it yourselfer’s, and it is a huge headache to try and figure out what someone else has done and then fix the screw up.

I have seen your work and I admit you have done an amazing job on your 350, your welds are textbook, which comes with practice, but that is only one car. Try doing the same on everything that is out on the road today and you’ll understand where I am coming from. The shop where I work takes care of the Subaru Club of Edmonton’s rides, and I don’t need to tell you about the crap I see under those hoods. $45000+ car and guys are dropping shit into them cause they think they know more than us mechanic’s do. Whatever, I’ll just hand you my bill to fix it.

You want it tuned properly, then be prepared to spend some cash and send it to a reputable tuning shop and have it done right, not by the hacks that call themselves tuner’s here in Alberta. I am getting tired of fixing their shit.

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**Author:** ![350zT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e68b1a/32.png) [@350zT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/350zT)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/26 "2010-02-01T09:33:43Z")

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> [@B18 Questions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b18-questions/6784/18):
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> Sorry to be so defensive, I just don’t like being thought of as a dumbass redneck. There are some of us out there that DO know what we are doing. You also need to keep in mind that you live in northern Alberta where tuning and performance cars are a waste of time, and we make no money working on them. That is why tuner shops are so scarce around here. I support the “DIY” attitude, just don’t blame the mechanic for trying to fix your mistakes. **I deal with the aftermath of do it yourselfer’s, and it is a huge headache to try and figure out what someone else has done and then fix the screw up**.

It works the other way around as well. I have had to fix some of my friends cars because they were in a “reputable” shop. Something as simple as a S/C install on a Mustang…didn’t think one could mess that up.

> [@B18 Questions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/b18-questions/6784/18):
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> I have seen your work and I admit you have done an amazing job on your 350, but that is only one car. Try doing the same on everything that is out on the road today and you’ll understand where I am coming from.
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> You want it tuned properly, then be prepared to spend some cash and send it to a reputable tuning shop and have it done right, not by the hacks that call themselves tuner’s here in Alberta. I am getting tired of fixing their shit.

Thanks, and I am expanding on to other platforms…and you clearly agree with me when it comes to quality of tuners in Alberta.

/rant.

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**Author:** ![Voodoo\_Child](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/voodoo_child/32/5832_2.png) [@Voodoo\_Child](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Voodoo_Child)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dyno-shops-in-alberta/149677/27 "2010-02-01T09:37:47Z")

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I deal with it everyday, and it is no picnic. It is unbelieveable the shit some shops produce, The Block Shop being the worst so far.  
Also keep in mind that they do not teach us how to install FI products on an N/A engine in school, that is a specialized field and requires different training. It would be totally possible for a tech to screw it up cause it is not part of the normal routine so to speak. With aftermarket performance comes a lot of risk which one must be prepared for.

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