# e-mail Conversation with a craigslist scammer

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [May 18, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960 "2009-05-18T09:49:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/1 "2009-05-18T09:49:31Z")

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So I submitted a craigslist add a few weeks ago for a Pillow Top Mattress and received a scammer e-mail. Here’s what traspired.

_Conversation Key:_  
**My e-mails, in Bold**  
Mr. Atkins Martins: scammer  
Mr. Robin S. Smith: scammer shipping service.

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Is your item still available?and get back to me with the recent pics
> 
> thanks.

**[Pics Sent]**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Thanks for the swift reply.I am okay with the condition and price of the item and am ready for its purchase.I’ll be paying you with a certified Bank Check and the payment will be issue out to you Via Ups Courier service I’ll be responsible for the pick-up,while you hold on my behalf. Once you receive this, my mover’s will come for the pick up
> 
> at your place.I will be needing the following information to issue out the payment…
> 
> 1.Your full name  
> 2.Your mailing address(Physical)…Not P.O.box  
> 3.Your phone number

**"Sounds Great. Make the check out to my friend Biff, it’s his bed.**

 

Biff Tannen [character from “Back to the Future”]  
742 Evergreen Terrace  
Springfield, New York [The Simpson’s Address]

Please call me at home so i can give you directions for pick up. 716.847-2255 [Buffalo Police] Thanks you very much. I appreciate it.

**–Josh"**

> From: Robin S. Smith (Shippers)
> 
> Good Morning Mr Biff Tanner, I Am Mr Robin Smith from Infinity Movers we are Mr Atkins Martins Shipper we have been Picking Up Items for him for a Years now and he emailed us to know that we are coming for a Pick from you for the(Pillow Top Matress/Box Spring - QUEEN)The Head Office is Located in Florida but we have Branches in all states we were told you are to Wire Money to us Via Money Gram Money Transfer before we come for Pick up from you because Mr Atkins is owning us for Months for the Items we Picked Up in the Past so he wants to take care of the Bill before coming to Pick Up from you as soon as the Money is Wired and you get back to us with the Details you use in sending the Money to the Head Office then i will Contact our Outlet in your state to come and Pick Up from you…

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Hello Biff,My Bank told me that (USPS Mail)Informed them that the check has been mailed out to you today so you should have it by
> 
> Tuesday as soon as you get the check you will cash the check at your
> 
> Bank,Then you will deduct your own money from it and also an extra $50
> 
> for your running arounds and then the rest funds should be wired to My shipper Via Money Gram Same Day and Money Gram Charges should be
> 
> deduct out of it as well when you get there,Here is the shipper
> 
> information below.
> 
> Name…Robin S Smith  
> Address…1200 Providence Blvd  
> City…Deltona  
> State…FL  
> Zip-Code…37257
> 
> They informed me that the only thing holding him up is the shipping  
> funds.Afterward i will require the following information from you…
> 
> 1.The Reference number which the 8 digits number on the Money Gram receipt  
> 2.Sender’s name and address used in sending the money  
> 3.Actual amount sent.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Awaiting your mail.

**Sounds great Atkins. I can’t wait to send you my money. I’ll let you know when the check gets here.**

 

**–Biff**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Hello Biff there is a Problem with the Address you provided UPS Find it hard to Deliver it due to incomplete address Kindly Contact Ups over the Phone and give them the Tracking Number and Provide them with the right address so they can Deliver it…Awaitiing Your Mail

**do you have any more info for me to contact UPS with? I’ll give them a call if you can provide the number and information about the package. I don’t know what’s wrong with the address, i’ll have to call and see. Thanks and i can’t wait to wire you some money.**

 

**–Biff**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> No Mail from you what is the Problem…

**Oh there is no problem, i have been very busy this weekend. I accidentally my fleshlight… I’m sure you understand.**

**I have just deposited $3000 to my account today and will send it to you on Monday. I look forward to sending you my money. Hopefully you can wire the return by weeks end.**

**–Biff**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Hi Biff or Josh how are you today i havent heard from you kindly get back to me tomorrow with the Details of the Money Gram as you said so my shipper can be set for the Pick Up by Friday i guess you should have the Payment by Tuesday Or Wednesday it was Mail out to you Via
> 
> Regular Mail…
> 
> Awaiting Your Mail

**Atkins,**

 

I’m sorry for the delay… i’m currently writing this e-mail from my cell phone as i am currently in the hospital. I accidentally my fleshlight again and my unit is stuck and damaged… i accidentally the WHOLE thing.

Anyway, i should be out of the hospital tomorrow after my surgery and I can send you the money via money gram then. I’ll give Biff a call and see if he can make the run today to send the money gram himself. I can’t wait to get rid of this mattress and I can’t wait to send you money for something i’m selling.

I’ll keep you updated.

**–Josh**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Thanks for your Email i hope to here from you soon for the Money Gram
> 
> Details Biff Use to send money to My Shipper how am i going to know  
> you have gotten the Check now that you are in the Hospital it will  
> deliver tomorrow or Wednesday my movers are set for the Pick Up all  
> they are waiting for is the Funds…I Hope you get well soon…The  
> Amount on the Check was for $3000…
> 
> Awaiting Your Mail

**Wow Atkins, that’s the longest run-on sentence i have ever read.**

 

I can’t wait to send you money and get rid of this mattress. I will let you know once Biff makes it out to send the Money Gram. He loves driving his 1946 Ford Convertible around and today is a beautiful day here. I’m sure he will make it out later this morning.

**–Josh**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> I Hope Biff Knows My Shippers Information where to send the Money to Via Money Gram and Kindly let him know that Money Gram are going toask for Charges for sending from him he should Deduct that out of my money left and send the rest and should incase he does not knows Money
> 
> Gram Location in is area he should let me know i could assit…As soon as the Money is Wired here are the Details Requested from you…My Shipper will contact you Via Email i gave them your contact so if you get their mail get back to them…
> 
> Name…Robin S Smith  
> Address…1200 Providence Blvd  
> City…Deltona  
> State…FL  
> Zip-Code…37257
> 
> They informed me that the only thing holding him up is the shipping funds.Afterward i will require the following information from  
> you…
> 
> 1.The Reference number which the 8 digits number on the Money Gram receipt  
> 2.Sender’s name and address used in sending the money  
> 3.Actual amount sent.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Awaiting your mail.

**Thanks Atkins, I texted Biff the information as you stated. I talked with Biff briefly to find out when he planned on driving into town. He said he’s just finishing up polishing his 1946 Ford Convertible and then he’s “Going to make like a tree and get out of here”. I like Biff, he’s so funny. That’s why he’s my friend.**

 

Good news for me! The doctors un-accidentally’d my fleshlight and it looks like i might be getting out of the hospital sooner then i expected. They just have to run some tests on my unit and make sure it still works fine. I’ll never accidentally my fleshlight ever again!

**will e-mail you soon. i can’t wait to send you money.**

> (From Freight Service)
> 
> Dear Biff,
> 
> How are you today we were told by Mr Atkins that you are about to Wire us Money Via Money Gram so we can come for the Pick Up tomorrow from you can you let us know the best time for us to come for the Pick Up from…
> 
> Awaiting Your Mail

**Robin this is Josh… Biff is on his way to send the money gram now. As far as a time to pick up, i have to talk with Biff…he is the one who will be waiting at my house while it’s picked up. I think he said he would be available all day on Thursday. I will let you know if anything changes.**

 

I’ve been talking with Atkins. He’s such a nice person. We should have everything cleared soon so you can make the pick-up arrangements. Does Atkins owe any more money for his past shipments? I would like to make sure you are paid off. I will send additional money if need be. let me know.

**–Josh**

> (From Freight Service)
> 
> Thanks so much for you Mail Mr Josh we will be waiting for the Money Gram Details as you stated Mr Atkins has been Owning the Shipping Company $2550 for items Picked Up for him in previous month as soon as we have the Details from you we will contact our Outlets in your state for the Pick Up.Can you get back to us with Mr Biff Cell Phone Number…
> 
> Get Back to Us…

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Thanks for your mail can you give the Biff Number to talk to him on Phone better did you get Any Email from my shipper yet…
> 
> Let Me Know…

**Atkins your grammar and sentence structure is horrible… are you a minority by any chance? Minorities seem to get the worst education or they just don’t care. I’m just wondering.**

 

could you rewrite this e-mail to me so know what you are talking about? I can’t wait to send money to you.

**–Josh**

> [@Mr. Atkins Martins](#):
>
> Yes you are right Josh. My Shipper told me they got an Email from you…
> 
> Awaiting Your Mail for the Detailsp

> How Much is Biff Sending to Mr Robin Smith…

**$2500 i believe. is this right? should i send more?**

(no response)

**Atkins,**

 

Bad news…Biff was driving around town in his 1946 Ford convertible and got into an accident. I don’t’ know the details yet, but something about chasing a kid on a hover board when he slammed into a manure truck.

Apparently he is on his way to same hospital i am at. I don’t know if this happened before or after he made the wire transfer. i’ll have to find out. I think he is okay though. I will keep you updated.

**–Josh**

**Atkins, Alright, here’s the latest. Good news, Bad news, a little better news, and not so good news at all. First, Biff is okay and broke his arm, but he’s more upset that he crashed his 1946 Ford Convertible into a manure truck. He really hates manure. The doctors had to do blood work on him and discovered he has HIV. It’s okay though, it’s not full blown AIDS.**

 

Since this is Biff’s bed he has agreed to lower the price by $200 because he thinks he may have gotten blood on it a few times. He feels bad that you too might get HIV and finds it fair to cut the price in half on it. So good news for you! you get the Mattress for only $200. I will send you $2700 instead of the $2500 you requested. I left the hospital already I am going to go do this now. I’m so excited to be sending you money for something that I’m selling!

Kind Regards,

**–Josh**

awaiting the next response…

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**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/2 "2009-05-18T09:56:08Z")

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love you…

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/3 "2009-05-18T09:58:57Z")

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- karma

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/4 "2009-05-18T10:01:11Z")

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lol.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/5 "2009-05-18T10:02:09Z")

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A+. Would read again. Now make sure he sends something overnight with the most expensive shipping option available.

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**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/6 "2009-05-18T10:04:42Z")

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how long have you been working on this one?

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/7 "2009-05-18T10:06:20Z")

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LMAO

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**Author:** ![OneFastMonkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onefastmonkey/32/7241_2.png) [@OneFastMonkey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneFastMonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/8 "2009-05-18T10:07:21Z")

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fucking hilarious :tup:

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/9 "2009-05-18T10:10:20Z")

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amazing.

BTTF!

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**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/10 "2009-05-18T10:11:05Z")

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Haha. I was waiting for the hoverboard and manure truck part of the story  
Any plans for mention of a clock tower or the Enchantment Under the Sea dance?

🙂

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/11 "2009-05-18T10:14:03Z")

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DId they ever send you the actual check? i have a couple that they have next day aird me from nigeria and the likes…

it costs them ~ 80 bux US to send a envelope from nigeria via fedex next day early AM (i always request this)

BOY do they get pissed when i tell them to F off after i recieved the package

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**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/12 "2009-05-18T10:14:05Z")

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:lol: Thread of the year :tup:

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**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/13 "2009-05-18T10:15:17Z")

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How do you find the time? Awesome btw…

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**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/14 "2009-05-18T10:15:39Z")

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Ahahahah… I love it! BTTFFTMFW

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/15 "2009-05-18T10:18:08Z")

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:tup: to working “I accidentally my fleshlight, THE WHOLE THING” into the conversation. :lol:

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/16 "2009-05-18T10:18:20Z")

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So much Win in one thread.

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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/17 "2009-05-18T10:19:11Z")

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my favorites are:

1.) his “_yes you are right Josh_” response to calling him out as a minority.  
2.) Using the word “ **un-accidently’d** ”  
3.) telling him how excited i am to be the one sending him money…in every response.

> [@justa4door](#):
>
> how long have you been working on this one?

the e-mails have been going back and forth now for almost 2 weeks… about 8 of them were from this morning.

> [@Viper966](#):
>
> DId they ever send you the actual check? i have a couple that they have next day aird me from nigeria and the likes…

I think he actually did send a letter or something…so i gave him my business address, just to see what comes. I am amazed that people exist in this world that would fall for such a scam.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/18 "2009-05-18T10:22:19Z")

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:lol:

Amazing Josh.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/19 "2009-05-18T10:24:53Z")

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My favorite was the sarcasm of, “I can’t wait to send you money for something I am selling”.

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**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e-mail-conversation-with-a-craigslist-scammer/67960/20 "2009-05-18T10:26:36Z")

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I like the random capitalization from the scammer and the fact they don’t read/understand anything you say to them. This was a pleasure to read.

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