# e36 m3 vs e46 330 vs Audi Allroad. Gaah!

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 3, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930 "2012-03-03T12:14:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/21 "2012-03-04T07:55:31Z")

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I think a A3 is still 15K more expensive than he is looking to spend.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/22 "2012-03-04T09:58:15Z")

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^truth.

we’re looking to get a diesel touareg or x5 to replace the f250diesel (not for sale) so I have a limited budget. Comfy tow rig would be nice, regular cab f250 is no bueno for all the long hauls we do

When I can ball out I’ll be getting a 335d with sport pkg and DCT, but not for a while. Though I do like the a3 a lot, dan’s looked good.

I have a couple e36m3’s and 330i manuals bookmarked…

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/23 "2012-03-04T11:52:14Z")

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A3’s:

2.0 tfsi didn’t come out until when, '09?  
the 3.2 looks cool, saw a few 06’s…

The dual clutch transmission is what I’m really after

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**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/24 "2012-03-04T12:04:43Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> A3’s:
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> 2.0 tfsi didn’t come out until when, '09?  
> the 3.2 looks cool, saw a few 06’s…
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> The dual clutch transmission is what I’m really after

2.0T FSI came out here in '06

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**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/25 "2012-03-04T12:53:26Z")

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Not sure what your price range is but ive seen a3’s for 10-15k. Lots with warranty left. Check out Audizine or the vortex

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/26 "2012-03-04T15:40:58Z")

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> [@bracketracer](#):
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> 2.0T FSI came out here in '06

they are only like 148hp, and the 2.0 tfsi is 260hp or something?

a3’s are out of my league now anyway just looking at cool

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**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/27 "2012-03-04T15:42:50Z")

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All the 2.0T’s are 200hp. Unless it’s in a golf R. A3’s also came with a 3.2 which Is the same as the R32 at 250hp.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/28 "2012-03-04T17:22:11Z")

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> [@Xander](#):
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> I figured it would do better (the LOLroad). My passat with the 2.8 which I understand is mechanically similar would do high 20s on the highway… I guess the brick like aero and the added weight kills it.
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> X…

Add AWD and almost 1,000 lbs, it hurts the MPGs

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/29 "2012-03-05T09:32:53Z")

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I was guessing the budget was 8-15k which can get an A3 / mk5 gti…

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**Author:** ![superfan99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@superfan99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/superfan99)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/30 "2012-03-05T10:08:19Z")

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Yeah, I saw a pretty clean 3.2 A3 with 80K in NoVa for around 15 online last week.

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/31 "2012-03-05T14:10:48Z")

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Second vote in support of a DSG. Greatest transmission evar.

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**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/32 "2012-03-06T20:31:06Z")

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#1: Allroad  
#2: E46  
#3: E36

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/33 "2012-03-06T21:14:19Z")

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Big cities and snow make you want awd auto?How boring would the other 350 days of the year be!  
. I drove to midtown manhattan every weekend in the snow last year with 5sp rwd e46, no probs. DSC (when on) makes it almost impossible to screw up in the snow. I avg 33mpg on highway…330 prob gets high20s…  
Also, based on your original list/concerns, most e46 sedan don’t have fold down seats for no reason as well. Mine has sport/cold weather/premium packages (I don’t think there’s any other options) and I don’t even have a small ski pass through behind the armrest.

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**Author:** ![robftw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@robftw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robftw)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/34 "2012-03-06T21:17:41Z")

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hmm Mine has the sport/cold/premium packages too and my seats fold down + the ski bag thing…

does yours have the HK stereo? and what Mtech kit is it

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/35 "2012-03-13T05:23:19Z")

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looks like I’m leaning towards an e36 m3 5 speed sedan

but would also like to add e34 and e28 m5’s as well. Blown motors ok (couple spare s38’s around).

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/36 "2012-03-13T07:13:49Z")

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e28 m5 is awesome… but you need to be hardcore for this to be your daily.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e36-m3-vs-e46-330-vs-audi-allroad-gaah/220930/37 "2012-03-13T09:20:57Z")

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yeah, that’s been a consideration of mine. We have an e28 535is at the shop, seems a bit too much

checking out a couple cars on thursday, both m cars but not a 3…

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