# E46 M3 headers **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 13, 2014, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082 "2014-01-13T05:52:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/1 "2014-01-13T05:52:07Z")
i would like to buy some cheap ebay headers. now i know there are ones with good fitment…i just dont know which ones they are. can anyone guide me in some sort of direction? link me to a good pair. also i see there are like 4 o2 sensors on these headers. these are all pre-cat? will i need an o2 cheater/anti-foulers? halp ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/2 "2014-01-13T05:57:55Z")
[http://www.cbstuning.com/jvtrahee46bm.html](http://www.cbstuning.com/jvtrahee46bm.html) ??? ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/3 "2014-01-13T06:03:14Z")
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXHAUST-HEADER-BMW-E46-M3-3-2L-01-02-03-04-05-Header-01-05-exhaust-header-/301046857923?pt=Motors\_Car\_Truck\_Parts\_Accessories&hash=item4617ca80c3&vxp=mtr](http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXHAUST-HEADER-BMW-E46-M3-3-2L-01-02-03-04-05-Header-01-05-exhaust-header-/301046857923?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4617ca80c3&vxp=mtr) are these good? [http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-M3-E46-Z3-Z4-M-01-06-3-2L-L6-S54-Performance-Exhaust-Manifold-Headers-/261360853426?pt=Motors\_Car\_Truck\_Parts\_Accessories&fits=Model%3AM3&hash=item3cda5221b2&vxp=mtr](http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-M3-E46-Z3-Z4-M-01-06-3-2L-L6-S54-Performance-Exhaust-Manifold-Headers-/261360853426?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AM3&hash=item3cda5221b2&vxp=mtr) these? > **[EXHAUST HEADER BMW M3 E46 01 02 03 04 05 3.2L EXHAUST HEADER 01-05 BMW E46 M3 |...](http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXHAUST-HEADER-BMW-M3-E46-01-02-03-04-05-3-2L-EXHAUST-HEADER-01-05-BMW-E46-M3-/301067816644?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46190a4ec4&vxp=mtr)** > > EXHAUST HEADER BMW M3 E46 01 02 03 04 05 3.2L EXHAUST HEADER 01-05 BMW E46 M3 | eBay! ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/4 "2014-01-13T10:15:33Z")
Personally, I wouldn’t do anything except CSL or Supersprint. I know there’s good reviews of the cheaper stuff out there, but I’m all about the ‘buy once, cry once’ mindset. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/5 "2014-01-13T10:17:01Z")
> [@WTB: 15" BMW Bottle Caps](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-15-bmw-bottle-caps/53786/2): > > Personally, I wouldn’t do anything except CSL or Supersprint. I know there’s good reviews of the cheaper stuff out there, but I’m all about the ‘buy once, cry once’ mindset. $149 for reps $1900 for the real supersprint headers um… ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/6 "2014-01-13T11:58:43Z")
shit i thought you were just making fun of nisky lot when you posted looking for cheap ebay headers lololol ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/7 "2014-01-13T12:22:25Z")
> [@Name Change requests](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/name-change-requests/14004/114): > > $149 for reps > > $1900 for the real supersprint headers > > um… Get used CSLs. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/8 "2014-01-13T12:34:20Z")
do they flow as well? ive seen some serious dyno plots with just ebay headers. like 20whp! what forum would be the best to look? ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/9 "2014-01-13T14:01:47Z")
> [@Milf inside.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/milf-inside/53711/69): > > do they flow as well? ive seen some serious dyno plots with just ebay headers. like 20whp! > > what forum would be the best to look? pretty sure they flow almost the same, just made like shit and end up cracking ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/10 "2014-01-13T14:43:50Z")
> [@Milf inside.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/milf-inside/53711/69): > > do they flow as well? ive seen some serious dyno plots with just ebay headers. like 20whp! > > what forum would be the best to look? The reason they’re getting that much power is because of the cat in the factory header. It’s very restrictive. I’d check E46Fanatics, Bimmerforums, etc… Those are the two I’m on, but haven’t posted in a while. I was considering doing a header as well, but on hold for a few until spring. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/11 "2014-01-14T05:24:33Z")
used euro headers are like 675+ fail! ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/12 "2014-01-14T05:53:24Z")
I went with cheap headers on my car and they were a bitch to put on and started rusting quickly despite being ceramic coated. I couldn’t even get a normal header bolt in one hole because the tube was too close to the bolt hole. They also blew out header gaskets a few times. I saved a few bucks but it wasn’t really worth the hassle. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/13 "2014-01-14T08:57:21Z")
well A. there are decent ones out there that i know people have a lot of success with and B. this isnt a few bucks. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/14 "2014-01-14T12:53:11Z")
Stupid question maybe being its you, but do you have an exhaust on this car yet? Headers on the s54 are not going to do squat without one. BW exhaust would be my recommendation if the answer is no. Loud, but the best on the market aside from custom 😉 Im against using cheap headers on these cars for many reasons but if money is an issue do what you see fit. If you buy headers with one piece flanges be prepared for cracks. Id go with the vac headers if youre trying to stay under a grand for the parts and are not going to buy tuned csl headers. If i were to use an aftermarket set id go with the EMS headers but theyre two grand. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/15 "2014-01-14T13:07:12Z")
> [@Name Change requests](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/name-change-requests/14004/114): > > $149 for reps > > $1900 for the real supersprint headers > > um… $150 shouldnt even buy you materials to make a set of proper headers. I watched a $1500 eiserman AXLEBACK not even remotely fit the car when it was brought to me, I had to cut and change that to get it even close enough and it still rubbed the bumper over time. I watched a $400 super sprint mid pipe not fit for shit either, had to fix that also. I had a guy drop off his wifes 2010 A4 to have me fix/reconstruct an ebay downpipe to work right, his words as he got out of his S63 “that will be the last knock off part ill every buy for a car.” We beat the shit out of ebay headers on a maurano to get them to fit. And I have welded countless cracked parts, warped flanges i had to cut off and weld new on, etc. Some ebay, some nutswinger brands that were touted as top notch becasue of the pretty purple weld beads. the list goes on, out of about 25 headers/downpipes we installed at CRC in 2 years, less than a hand full actually fit right, functioned perfectly and lasted longer than the ownership of the cars in most cases… 20 were $150 specials, 5 were $1500 properly designed piece. I refuse the work now to even install a set of “rep” headers or downpipes for all the reasons above. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/16 "2014-01-14T16:07:16Z")
No cheap header ever fits good ! Every cheep set I have ever installed on cars , trucks , bikes whatever ya get what ya pay for . Get the best ya can afford ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/17 "2014-01-14T16:47:18Z")
[http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419474](http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419474) Euro headers got him about 16whp/8lb.ft… Not bad at all for $650. CSL headers are pretty much the same, but slightly different material and wall thickness. From what I’ve read, there’s no real power gain over the standard catless Euro headers, but the CSL headers are half the weight. Both are a bit lighter than US OEM due to the cats. ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/18 "2014-01-14T18:55:53Z")
> [@== Woodward Dream Cruise ==](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/woodward-dream-cruise/53789/4): > > $150 shouldnt even buy you materials to make a set of proper headers. > > I watched a $1500 eiserman AXLEBACK not even remotely fit the car when it was brought to me, I had to cut and change that to get it even close enough and it still rubbed the bumper over time. > > I watched a $400 super sprint mid pipe not fit for shit either, had to fix that also. > > I had a guy drop off his wifes 2010 A4 to have me fix/reconstruct an ebay downpipe to work right, his words as he got out of his S63 “that will be the last knock off part ill every buy for a car.” > > We beat the shit out of ebay headers on a maurano to get them to fit. > > And I have welded countless cracked parts, warped flanges i had to cut off and weld new on, etc. Some ebay, some nutswinger brands that were touted as top notch becasue of the pretty purple weld beads. > > the list goes on, out of about 25 headers/downpipes we installed at CRC in 2 years, less than a hand full actually fit right, functioned perfectly and lasted longer than the ownership of the cars in most cases… 20 were $150 specials, 5 were $1500 properly designed piece. I refuse the work now to even install a set of “rep” headers or downpipes for all the reasons above. Hey my middle of the road header fit right! [Tapatalk](http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1) is consuming my life ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/19 "2014-01-15T05:03:36Z")
i plan on doing more exhaust on this car. its kinda of going to be my new project car. but i was going to start with headers. i did however find some sick headers that are coming out soon but no price has been put on them. i guess i would be more than happy with CSL headers if i could find them ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082/20 "2014-01-16T13:28:40Z")
Thatta boy. I do recommend Bimmerworld’s exhaust if you don’t mind loud. Very light (saves 60+ lbs), but loud. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-headers/268082.md?page=2)