# e46 M3 vs viggen

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [January 11, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-vs-viggen/241304 "2009-01-11T09:38:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e46-m3-vs-viggen/241304/93 "2009-01-19T18:29:40Z")

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> [@Official: Roller Hockey Wednesday Nights - Pepsi Center](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-roller-hockey-wednesday-nights-pepsi-center/10887/95):
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> i disagree that short thows ruin transmissions, unless its installed improperly, or driven improperly. i’ve been running an active autowerke stage IV in my e36 since i bought it like 5 years ago, and have had zero issues. i’ve had the car on the road for a few winters as well. maybe in the honda or nissan world there is issues, but not in bimmerland.
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> **the “mechanical” advantages are also tenfold in many cars. bottom line is if you drive a manual car your using the shifter non-stop. would you rather have a stock tall shifter with a ton of slop, that leaves you “rowing” to put the car in gear?**
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> **i personally love a tight feeling driveline, and a notchy, positive-feeling gearbox.**
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> but hey, wtf do i know?

Actually, I love my stock shifter/throw 10x better than any short throw/short shifter I’ve ever experienced…It’s _very_ tight, notchy, and positive feeling. Feels like a hot knife going through butter & I think anyone that’s experienced the rsx 6 speed transmission they would agree 100%. I hate the feeling of every BMW tranny/shifter along with some VW and other Honda trannys/shifters I’ve experienced.

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