# E85 available from NYS Thruway authority?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 24, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843 "2007-05-24T18:08:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/1 "2007-05-24T18:08:28Z")

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[http://www.e85refueling.com/](http://www.e85refueling.com/)

> **1 refueling station(s) within 100 mi. of Tonawanda, NY**

> ```
> <b> About 8 mi.	        
> NYS Thruway Authority </b>
> 1870 Walden Ave.	        
> Cheektowaga , NY 14225	        
> 
> ```

thats the only source of E85 within 100 miles…does anyone know if thats available for public use? or is that strictly hiway department use only?

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/2 "2007-05-24T18:17:05Z")

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[quote=“JDMR2"”]

[http://www.e85refueling.com/](http://www.e85refueling.com/)

thats the only source of E85 within 100 miles…does anyone know if thats available for public use? or is that strictly hiway department use only?

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its private look below the address

[http://www.e85refueling.com/distance.php?page=1](http://www.e85refueling.com/distance.php?page=1)

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/3 "2007-05-24T18:51:50Z")

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its only there because some law required that a certian number of state vehicals to be envirmentaly friendly or some shit like that

and by the way, repost

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**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/4 "2007-05-24T19:05:32Z")

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I have yet to see a e85 pump anywhere, and I travel quite a bit.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/5 "2007-05-24T19:16:53Z")

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[quote=“JustinH,post:4,topic:29843"”]

I have yet to see a e85 pump anywhere, and I travel quite a bit.

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Same, hell I did 4000 miles in the past 12 days or so, I still havent seen E85 regularly available yet. I’ve seen it at one station out west and that was it.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/6 "2007-05-24T19:45:16Z")

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in detroit we have them everywhere and its actually cheaper that gas right now

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/7 "2007-05-24T19:54:16Z")

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[quote=“Bigronsaudi,post:6,topic:29843"”]

in detroit we have them everywhere and its actually cheaper that gas right now

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it should always be cheaper then gas, otherwise it offers zero $ savings, a tank of e85 doesnt last as long as a tank of gasoline

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/8 "2007-05-24T19:58:05Z")

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[quote=“HotRodKid,post:7,topic:29843"”]

it should always be cheaper then gas, otherwise it offers zero $ savings, a tank of e85 doesnt last as long as a tank of gasoline

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this is true and no one bought it until gas went to $3.60 in detroit in a past couple weekss

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**Author:** ![GA2002GT2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5ac83/32.png) [@GA2002GT2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GA2002GT2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/9 "2007-05-24T21:18:48Z")

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Family Express on Seneca St. and Kurkwood Ave. in West Seneca has a e85 pump.

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**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/10 "2007-05-24T21:43:34Z")

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[quote=“HotRodKid,post:7,topic:29843"”]

it should always be cheaper then gas, otherwise it offers zero $ savings, a tank of e85 doesnt last as long as a tank of gasoline

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[quote=“Bigronsaudi,post:8,topic:29843"”]

this is true and no one bought it until gas went to $3.60 in detroit in a past couple weekss

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so how much does e85 cost compared to regular and how much does your mpg go down when you use it?

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**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/11 "2007-05-24T22:27:02Z")

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[quote=“GA2002GT2,post:9,topic:29843"”]

Family Express on Seneca St. and Kurkwood Ave. in West Seneca has a e85 pump.

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no shit…is it regularly filled or is it just an empty pump atm?

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/12 "2007-05-24T22:49:28Z")

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mileage depends on teh car, its important to have a tune that will actualy use the benifits of higher octane, and also add the extra fuel needed (stoich mixture on e85 isnt 14.7:1, its between 9.73 & 9.8:1

they usually say you use about 25% more e85 then you would gasoline

> From: [http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341](http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341)
> 
> Here are some comparisions of stoichmetric fuel mixtures for different fuel blends:  
> ======== stoichmetric AFR ===== max power rich AFR  
> Gasoline ---------- 14.7:1 -------------------12.5  
> 100% E-85 ------- 9.73-9.8:1 ------------- ~ 9:1 - 8:1  
> 100% fuel ethanol - 9:1 ------------------- ~ 7.2:1

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**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/13 "2007-05-24T23:02:09Z")

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lol, i’m definitely not seeking out E85 for its mpg benefit…

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/14 "2007-05-24T23:06:46Z")

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i"ve seen e85 in wisconsin…it was 1.99 a gallon…regular was 2.60

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/15 "2007-05-24T23:34:49Z")

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[quote=“JDMR2,post:13,topic:29843"”]

lol, i’m definitely not seeking out E85 for its mpg benefit…

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🙂

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/16 "2007-05-25T07:37:39Z")

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[quote=“JDMR2,post:11,topic:29843"”]

no shit…is it regularly filled or is it just an empty pump atm?

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I dont know. Never really stoped and looked. Just saw it one day and said wow we have one of those around here. LOL

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**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/17 "2007-05-25T07:40:40Z")

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hrm…im going to have to make a trek out there and see if its active…

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/18 "2007-05-25T07:53:49Z")

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[quote=“sedlmeier101,post:14,topic:29843"”]

i"ve seen e85 in wisconsin…it was 1.99 a gallon…regular was 2.60

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1.99+25% more burned = $2.49/gal. So you’d save $2.75 on a 25 gallon fillup. The time I’d waste filling up more often isn’t worth $2.75 a fillup.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/19 "2007-05-25T11:47:33Z")

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let’s say you drive A LOT and fill up twice a week that’s a AMAZING $286/yr

:lol:

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-available-from-nys-thruway-authority/29843/20 "2007-05-25T12:35:09Z")

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[quote=“JoesTypeS,post:19,topic:29843"”]

let’s say you drive A LOT and fill up twice a week that’s a AMAZING $286/yr

:lol:

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and for saving 286 for the year, you got to run a whole load more boost, which maybe you couldnt have done without new pistons, or without killing a shitload of timing, or something else of the sort

so in some cases, save $300 in gas, save another 200, 500, 1000 in engine mods to get extra power

i like the idea of e85, even if the hype is all bullshit

examples of bullshit hype:

cnbc reported today that e85 can give 50% more mileage , apparently because it burns hotter. and then you can run a smaller gas tank to get the same distance out of a vehical, which saves weight and gives even more milage

they said this all in reference to indy cars, and everything they either said is crap, or indy car specific

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