# E85 Ethanol vs 93 Pump Gas

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [February 27, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817 "2008-02-27T07:54:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SOADweskey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/soadweskey/32/6747_2.png) [@SOADweskey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOADweskey)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/101 "2012-06-13T06:19:35Z")

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I went from BPR7s to BPR8s for ethanol, I think I may give the non projected tip a try next time around.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/102 "2012-06-13T18:56:44Z")

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Sparktech Coil On Plug non-CDI ignition, NGK BR8ES plug, .020 gap

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/103 "2012-06-13T19:17:25Z")

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Oh…I’m currently helping out with some 2-stroke/E85 testing…

Let’s just say the results in the infancy stages of testing are AMAZING.

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**Author:** ![Bryan90GL-X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bryan90GL-X](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bryan90GL-X)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/104 "2012-06-14T18:56:08Z")

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Cool link Joe! I found this in a TSB from NGK from a few years ago:

“If your vehicle was not calibrated for a fuel blended with ethanol the following  
adjustments can be done to restore the expected mileage and performance prior  
to the change in the fuel type. NGK Spark Plugs Canada Limited recommends to  
install a spark plug one heat rating cooler than OE to dissipate the increase in  
cylinder temperature as well as adjusting the spark plug gap setting to 0.010”  
smaller then the vehicle’s factory setting (Note: do not reduce gap to less than  
0.035”).”

Im still using the BKR6E-11’s (still at .044 factory gap) that I used before E85 without issue, but I do have a pretty mild setup compared to most of you guys. Im also using an MSD 6A box with a Blaster coil. Maybe Ill experiment with a step colder on the next set but in a year I havent seen any indications that I _need_ to make the change.

> [@Candles...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/candles/49883/20):
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> Oh…I’m currently helping out with some 2-stroke/E85 testing…
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> Let’s just say the results in the infancy stages of testing are AMAZING.

Was thinking about this today when I almost ran outta gas for the weedeater and found a few gallons of leftover E85 in the garage, haha. Whats the application?

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/105 "2012-06-14T20:00:43Z")

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Very interested in that Travis. Jetski racing could use a race gas alternative…

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**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/106 "2012-06-15T10:56:35Z")

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A race gas alternative that is far less toxic to the delicate marine environment.

My NGK TR6 looked great. Only one plug had any noticeable gap erosion over 20k miles on the NGKs. This is probably more an example of a quality plug the fuel.

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/107 "2012-06-15T11:44:04Z")

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We run in cesspools. :rofl

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**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/108 "2012-06-15T17:00:19Z")

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200 loves this corn sauce.

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/109 "2012-06-15T20:25:50Z")

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I was running TR6’s, but I switched to stock heat range (5) and experienced poor idle quality. One time I pissed on my shoes as well.

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**Author:** ![AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/amd_is_the_best/32/6342_2.png) [@AMD\_IS\_THE\_BEST](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AMD_IS_THE_BEST)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/110 "2012-06-15T20:50:32Z")

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I’ve pissed on my foot. Sucks.

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/111 "2012-06-15T20:59:58Z")

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Fortunately, we both piss excellence so it’s not as bad as it could be.

Find me a reasonably priced 5 zylindar!

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/112 "2012-06-15T21:11:05Z")

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there’s one in the classifieds you moron

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/113 "2012-06-15T22:18:35Z")

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Overpriced hunk of SHIT.

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/114 "2012-06-15T22:47:21Z")

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> [@HOLY SH!T. Accident in front of my office. Cell pic!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/holy-sh-t-accident-in-front-of-my-office-cell-pic/49911/3):
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> there’s one in the classifieds you moron

You missed the reasonably priced part. :lol

Na, but seriously… I don’t really want a 200, probably another Coupe GT like I used to have.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/115 "2012-06-16T00:11:28Z")

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[http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3079329463.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3079329463.html)

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/116 "2012-06-16T07:40:42Z")

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> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/449):
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> [http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3079329463.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3079329463.html)

LOL I totally missed it due to the misspelling of Coupe.

Emailing now.

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/117 "2012-06-16T07:47:17Z")

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you couldn’t handle a 200

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**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/118 "2012-06-16T08:15:27Z")

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Word. I have no experience piloting an 11 second boat. Oh wait…

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/119 "2012-06-16T08:22:45Z")

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Even though I know it’s not a big deal, I’m cannot disclose the details of the 2 stroke application. What I can say is that there was an initial power gain of 3 percent OVER VP race fuel, and even more impressive, the powerband was widened by a significant margin.

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-ethanol-vs-93-pump-gas/235817/120 "2012-06-16T10:15:40Z")

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Can you point me in the right direction…? Oil ratio, go up approx 30% in jet size, anything? Lolol. I won’t tell. 😉

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