# E85 questions inside.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [August 3, 2015, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776 "2015-08-03T10:53:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2015, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/1 "2015-08-03T10:53:09Z")
Let’s lay down the basics.
The Motor will be a N/A motor. 12.5-13.5:1 compression (haven’t decided yet)
Currently I can only adjust fuel, NOT timing.
Can I safely run either e85 or a 50/50 blend?
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### Author:  [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/2 "2015-08-03T13:08:51Z")
Can you get bigger injectors / fuel pump for it? figure at least using 30% more fuel. Might be difficult to run without changing timing, as I found the fuel likes a hotter spark w/ more advance than usual.
I wouldn’t bother mixing 50/50, you will most likely lose the benefits of the fuel.
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### Author:  [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/3 "2015-08-03T14:02:57Z")
> [@FourEyed](#):
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> Can you get bigger injectors / fuel pump for it? figure at least using 30% more fuel. Might be difficult to run without changing timing, as I found the fuel likes a hotter spark w/ more advance than usual.
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> I wouldn’t bother mixing 50/50, you will most likely lose the benefits of the fuel.
Maby a advanced timing keyway or move the timing pickup? I had to do that on a project a wile ago it helped a decent amount to a point… Just a thought
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/4 "2015-08-03T14:42:34Z")
Yes turbo maverick injectors are 40 lbs vs my 31lbs if not I knew they make 80lbs but It’s not a sponsorship part.
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Also if I go 50/50 I should be around 98 Octane and not need quite as much more fuel.
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### Author:  [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/5 "2015-08-03T15:07:43Z")
If you aren’t able to fuss with timing, I really don’t think its going to be worth it as you will barely see any gain I’d think. If you could move the trigger point it might work, but that would be a full change across the board.
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/6 "2015-08-03T15:52:02Z")
I’ll toss the injectors in so they are done. I can purchase the system to timing is another $1600.
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### Author:  [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/7 "2015-08-04T05:16:51Z")
I don’t see the point of running e85 just for high compression.
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/8 "2015-08-04T05:26:04Z")
What’s e85 cost like 3.50 a gallon? Vs the $14 a gallon I pay for the race fuel in the bikes.
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### Author:  [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/9 "2015-08-04T05:31:00Z")
E85 is like $2.50/gallon i think
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### Author:  [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/10 "2015-08-04T06:34:55Z")
Wow huge difference in cost. E85 it is.
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### Author:  [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/11 "2015-08-04T16:27:47Z")
Yeah I paid $2.60 at north French and Campbell Noco a week and a half ago. The Lackawanna Xcell station had it for $2.29 a few weeks ago.
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### Author:  [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/12 "2015-08-04T17:05:09Z")
e85 needs more timing to be taken advantage of, either more timing or more compression
50/50 mix works well on my platforms but really only should be ran if you dont have enough fuel for e85
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/13 "2015-08-04T18:50:23Z")
I’ll have to look into the timing thing, I know of another way that might be a bit cheaper.
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### Author:  [@donkeyballs69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/donkeyballs69)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/14 "2015-08-04T19:25:00Z")
If you can’t adjust the timing I probably wouldn’t bother with e85. On average I was running 12 more degrees of timing up top than 93oct. E30 or E40 blend would be better and it will start easier when it’s cooler out.
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### Author:  [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/15 "2015-08-05T03:19:03Z")
Would I need to pull as much timing with a E30 /E40? The stock ecu will adjust some timing, but nothing I can currently control.
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### Author:  [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/16 "2015-08-05T05:12:22Z")
You won’t realize all the benefits of the fuel by cutting it 50%…
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### Author:  [@donkeyballs69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/donkeyballs69)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2015, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/17 "2015-08-05T06:05:00Z")
There’s no more energy in e85 than there is in e50. Benefits beyond e50 essentially lay only in cooler combustion temps.
> **[E85 Fuel Switch - Chevy High Performance Magazine](http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/additional-tech/1110chp-e85-fuel-switch/)**
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> Read about what to know if you switch to E85 fuel. Read more only at www.chevyhiperformance.com, the official website for Chevy High Performance Magazine!
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There’s a great article in the hp tuners forum, but the pdf link isn’t working.
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### Author:  [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2015, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/18 "2015-08-05T07:54:48Z")
Yes. More cooling effect, and more stable under higher boost / nitrous / high compression applications.
The gas is only present in E-85 to light the mix.
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### Author:  [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/19 "2015-08-05T07:58:27Z")
Can you change the heat range plugs to 3-4 steps hotter if needed to get around the timing problem? 13.5:1 compression should make up for std timing somewhat.
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### Author:  [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)
#### Post date: [August 5, 2015, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e85-questions-inside/272776/20 "2015-08-05T08:06:20Z")
That would work also… For example… my car runs an NGK-7 plug which is a couple heat ranges hotter, and I’m at about 32\* timing at 20lbs of boost. Shows how nice the fuel is.
Here:
[http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421053](http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421053)
Get to reading, a lot of good info in there based on real world experience.
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