# E90/92's and the functionality of big wings

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [April 22, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836 "2013-04-22T12:31:07Z")
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### Author: ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/1 "2013-04-22T12:31:07Z")

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So all of you BMW lovers; this kid I know bought a 2006 or 2007 4-door 335i and he thinks by installing a large GT wing it will instantly improve handling at Lime Rock.

His mods are; Unknown brand lowering springs, new street tires, inter cooler, and 400HP reflash.

Cossey; I know you run 1-minute lap times there with no ricer wing.

A: This kid is “special” and it wouldn’t do anything.  
B: This really would be functional at Lime Rock.  
C: The new Euro kids have taken the place of the Honda owner.

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### Author: ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/2 "2013-04-22T12:32:58Z")

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Bimmer World carbon aero or some other offname/APR crap?

The first yeah, it works, the latter not so sure about that 🙂

The real question is whether or not he’s a good enough driveer to actually NEED the wing in the first place. AKA, goes fast enough to require it…

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### Author: ![crAppAchic0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crappachic0/32/6306_2.png) [@crAppAchic0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crAppAchic0)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/3 "2013-04-22T12:38:12Z")

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I will give my opinion that (with out ever driving or owning one of these cars - E9x):

A: This kid is “special” and it wouldn’t do anything (that he’ll notice- basically same as Adam said)

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### Author: ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/4 "2013-04-22T12:45:18Z")

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20-years old, never been on a track. Also owns a spray painted E30 with a fuel cell, replica CCWs that rub on the ebay coilovers, and a home made roll cage and with that he automatically classifies the car as a race car.

In my eyes I see better coilovers, better tires, and corner weighting/proper alignment being more beneficial than slapping on a $150 eBay GT wing to “make it faster”.

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### Author: ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/5 "2013-04-22T13:05:05Z")

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lol, in that case no it won’t do a damn lick of good for him.

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/6 "2013-04-22T16:02:44Z")

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Aero is entirely pointless as his assumed level of driving/purpose for the car. He’ll learn that if he ever actually does a DE

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### Author: ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/7 "2013-04-22T16:14:14Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/93):
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> Aero is entirely pointless as his assumed level of driving/purpose for the car. He’ll learn that if he ever actually does a DE

I can’t fucking wait for May 10th.

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### Author: ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/8 "2013-04-22T16:16:18Z")

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Now that someone answered the question for real, and I don’t feel like such a douche putting this thread off topic…

Option C - Because Benny’s race car.

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/9 "2013-04-22T16:17:16Z")

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\<3

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### Author: ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/10 "2013-04-23T05:36:01Z")

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Please tell me this kid didn’t sign up for the Patroon event…

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### Author: ![MSport1223](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/msport1223/32/6735_2.png) [@MSport1223](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MSport1223)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/11 "2013-04-23T07:03:07Z")

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It won’t do any good. The E90 can’t get up to the proper cornering speeds for a wing that size to come into effect. The reason those wings exist are for cars that can corner at speed such as in the ALMS or GrandAm racing series. Without the proper tires, suspension, brakes, etc…there would be no reason for the car to have a wing. If anything, it would produce more front end lift and the car would be horrendous under braking.

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### Author: ![ExcuseM3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/excusem3/32/6758_2.png) [@ExcuseM3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ExcuseM3)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/12 "2013-04-23T07:28:22Z")

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Please God no. :banghead

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### Author: ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/13 "2013-04-23T07:34:46Z")

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> [@2009 Challenger....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-challenger/50696/59):
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> It won’t do any good. The E90 can’t get up to the proper cornering speeds for a wing that size to come into effect.

Which is 100% not true. What Boxersix stated is what matters the most, a properly designed element.

Does he need the wing, hell no.

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### Author: ![MSport1223](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/msport1223/32/6735_2.png) [@MSport1223](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MSport1223)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/14 "2013-04-23T07:36:18Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/47885/322):
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> Which is 100% not true. What Boxersix stated is what matters the most, a properly designed element.
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> Does he need the wing, hell no.

With the equipment that he has, there is no way that he can achieve speeds that would benefit a GT wing. Wings of that nature are meant for cornering, without the proper equipment (which he doesn’t have) he won’t be able to use it effectively.

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### Author: ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/15 "2013-04-23T07:37:14Z")

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> [@So - you sell a car with a lien on it](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-you-sell-a-car-with-a-lien-on-it/52459/10):
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> With the equipment that he has, there is no way that he can achieve speeds that would benefit a GT wing.

and what speeds do you think he needs to reach in order to gain benefit?

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### Author: ![MSport1223](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/msport1223/32/6735_2.png) [@MSport1223](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MSport1223)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/16 "2013-04-23T07:44:45Z")

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> [@So - you sell a car with a lien on it](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-you-sell-a-car-with-a-lien-on-it/52459/11):
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> and what speeds do you think he needs to reach in order to gain benefit?

In what type of corner? The fast sweeper at Lime Rock, or something like turn 1?

All he would need is an M3 rear lip in my opinion. The car doesn’t have a front splitter or under body, and that would help his cause.

It’s entirely based on airflow over and under the car. For this example however, we would be discussing the over aspect.

All the large rear wing would do would be to create drag because the car isn’t as streamlined as something such as a GT car in the ALMS series. It’s all up to how well you can make a car move through the air that it’s pushing around.

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### Author: ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/17 "2013-04-23T09:26:51Z")

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gt wing wont help unless it’s accompanied by a roof spoiler also, and a diffuser thats a universal ebay jump off.

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### Author: ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/18 "2013-04-23T09:50:51Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/164):
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> Please tell me this kid didn’t sign up for the Patroon event…

:ninja

He’ll be at a few Lime Rock events as well as LVD drift events.

If you have Facebook and drive a BMW, prepare to be BFFs.

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/19 "2013-04-23T12:08:21Z")

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uhh

if hes trying to drift an e90 335 at lvd…hes gonna have a bad time.

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### Author: ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-92s-and-the-functionality-of-big-wings/266836/20 "2013-04-23T12:23:14Z")

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> [@FF: 2 Tickets to Bills Practice tonight 7-31](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ff-2-tickets-to-bills-practice-tonight-7-31/52441/9):
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> uhh
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> if hes trying to drift an e90 335 at lvd…hes gonna have a bad time.

I need this to go with it.

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