# E90 M3 Sedan!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [February 13, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129 "2006-02-13T17:57:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/41 "2006-02-14T11:11:36Z")

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> [@audios](#):
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> bmw’s new gen m3 will be better, it wont just eb edged out. but if the motor sounds anything like it does in the current m3 i would still take the audi. i hate the m3 motor note
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> joe

I don’t love the sound of the M3 but it depends on the exhaust. Some of them sound F1’ish. Some sound like a blender with a tin can in it. But the sound never bothered me. When you can get that kind of performance out of a 3.2L I6, everything else is just nit picking.

The 4.2 V8 of the S4 sounds pretty sweet though. Of course thats the muscle car guy in me speaking.

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**Author:** ![audios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@audios](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/audios)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/42 "2006-02-14T11:26:45Z")

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> [@JaysGreenLX](#):
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> . **Some sound like a blender with a tin can in it**. But the sound never bothered me. When you can get that kind of performance out of a 3.2L I6, everything else is just nit picking.
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ugh i totally agree. but to each their own, i know of a few people who love that sound.

now as far as getting that power out of a 3.2 i6. i am not that impressed. one of the reasons i dont like the e46 m3 is its lack of ability to tune later down the road. it took alot to get the 100hp/lit out of that motor and thats evident by the fact they dont handle boost and require a good amount of annoying engine tuning. from what i hear it is as bad ad the motronic in the audis in that everything goes through the ecu. what a pita.  
yes i know the m3 is an out of the box hero and thats where the popularity comes from. but for me half the fun of cars is changing them and getting every ounce of performance you can…what fun is it if it already comes like that…and then it costs 30k to do something different for minimal gains (arent turbo kits for e46’s only pushing 400whp or something?)

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/43 "2006-02-14T11:33:59Z")

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> [@audios](#):
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> i agree with that to a certain extent. i dont think they are trying to play catch up, i think they are trying to be second place. i really do. even though in recent comparos the rs4 edges out the m3, in every single one i have seen anyways.
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> bmw’s new gen m3 will be better, it wont just eb edged out. but if the motor sounds anything like it does in the current m3 i would still take the audi. i hate the m3 motor note
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> joe

I saw a comparison of the RS4 to the M3 and it was funny because they already compared the S4 to the M3 and said the S4 was better.

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/44 "2006-02-14T12:00:15Z")

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hmmmm, 425hp w/smg \>\* anyway, nobody likes the new body lines of the bmw but give it a couple years and it will grow on everyone just like the wrx did. Oh, and you can garuntee that with a M badge it will handle. Unfortunately it will probably have buttons on top of buttons on top of levers to control everything and just confuse the hell outta everyone. BMW technology is a little too advanced for there time imho. People tend to like simplicity when it comes to sport/race cars.

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/45 "2006-02-14T12:01:56Z")

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> [@audios](#):
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> now as far as getting that power out of a 3.2 i6. i am not that impressed. one of the reasons i dont like the e46 m3 is its lack of ability to tune later down the road. it took alot to get the 100hp/lit out of that motor and thats evident by the fact they dont handle boost and require a good amount of annoying engine tuning. from what i hear it is as bad ad the motronic in the audis in that everything goes through the ecu. what a pita.  
> yes i know the m3 is an out of the box hero and thats where the popularity comes from. but for me half the fun of cars is changing them and getting every ounce of performance you can…what fun is it if it already comes like that…and then it costs 30k to do something different for minimal gains (arent turbo kits for e46’s only pushing 400whp or something?)

It does seem like the I6 is pretty well maxed out from the factory. But then you have to look at cars like TVR’s. I would consider them the kings of pulling maximum performance out of minimum displacement.

I know what you mean about the ability to mod the engine though. It sucks that anything you want to do with these motors are giving next to nothing for power and cost 3x more than doing it to another car. I used to hang out at [E46fanatics.com](http://E46fanatics.com) a lot and saw that everyone did lips, wheels, brakes, body kits, etc. but no one touched the engine.

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**Author:** ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/46 "2006-02-14T12:04:15Z")

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I like the M3 sedan idea…I think they designed the new 3-series too small

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/47 "2006-02-14T12:42:14Z")

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:tup: to bringing the four door back for us married with children guys.🙂

When I was young and single I never understood 4 door sports cars.😛  
Now I can only buy cars that fit baby car seats.:biglaugh:

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/48 "2006-02-14T14:09:32Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> :tup: to bringing the four door back for us married with children guys.🙂
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> When I was young and single I never understood 4 door sports cars.😛  
> Now I can only buy cars that fit baby car seats.:biglaugh:

I must be getting old. I get excited about Subaru, Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Saab, Volvo wagons.

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**Author:** ![MidgeX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MidgeX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidgeX)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/49 "2006-02-14T14:17:08Z")

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> [@Xander](#):
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> \<—Can’t wait for the rumored M4 to come out. :snky:
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> X…

yeah ive heard about that  
however i heard it was just the m3 coupe :gotme:

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/50 "2006-02-14T15:16:07Z")

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> [@Xander](#):
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> \<—Can’t wait for the rumored M4 to come out.

The M4 is nothing more than the sedan version. BMW is attempting to change the number designation because it is a 4dr.

And to everyone bitching about a 4dr M3, they did make 4dr M3’s before…  
The E36 was available as a sedan from 98-99 (in the US). It was also available with an automatic (and not an SMG automatic, but a full blown automatic slushbox).

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/51 "2006-02-14T17:46:32Z")

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No, they are not even attempting to change the number designation. With the new series of cars (e90, e60, etc) they decided to create the odd numbered cars in 4 door, with the even’s as 2dr cars. They scrapped the idea very very quickly.

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/52 "2006-02-14T18:02:37Z")

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^^^ yes thats what I was referring to. The M4 was just the sedan version of the new M3. It was a stupid idea from the get go (thanks Bangle, I’m sure that asshat had something to do with it…) I’m glad they’ve scraped it.

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**Author:** ![mJstk01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mJstk01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mJstk01)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/53 "2006-02-15T06:27:58Z")

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tail lights on the new 3 series :tdown:

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/54 "2008-11-18T06:36:31Z")

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BUMP!

figured i’d bump this because i knew the new design would grow on most everybody, including myself. Just curious to see how/if people’s opinions may have changed after seeing this design for a few years.

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**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/55 "2008-11-18T06:45:51Z")

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I like it. I think its a great design from the outside. Greatly prefer it over the E46. The interior I think lags significantly though.

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/56 "2008-11-18T06:48:16Z")

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I like the coupe… its such a pretty car… there is a dark blue one rolling around by UB that makes me sooo envious ☹

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/57 "2008-11-18T06:50:33Z")

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I still hate the headlights.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/58 "2008-11-18T07:12:33Z")

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i just wish the interior was better since thats the only part of the car you really see when you drive.

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/59 "2008-11-18T07:42:30Z")

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I actually like the sedan better than the coupe. The fenders look better, and I have seen a black sedan rolling around, it looks amazing

![http://www.zcars.com.au/images/2008-bmw-m3-sedan12.JPG](http://www.zcars.com.au/images/2008-bmw-m3-sedan12.JPG)

![http://www.zcars.com.au/images/2008-bmw-m3-sedan1.JPG](http://www.zcars.com.au/images/2008-bmw-m3-sedan1.JPG)

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/e90-m3-sedan/8129/60 "2008-11-18T07:52:25Z")

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im still a coupe guy, but a freidn jsut got a new 2009 335i sedan, and i like the facelift

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