# Early F-body lovers please step in **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960 "2009-01-08T12:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/21 "2009-01-08T14:55:31Z")
> [@9c1ny](#): > > oh well in that case put some lambo doors on it, paint it to look like some form of junk food (ie a bag of Fritos or a box of lucky charms) and put like 24" rims on it and hes good to go LOL thats so true ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/22 "2009-01-08T15:20:15Z")
Meh, 1st gens suck. j/k 67-69 are worth the most. 79 Camaro was the highest production Camaro for a year, EVER. So they are out there. They are worth some $ but not a ton. 70-73 have been climbing. There are a ton of places that sell Fbody parts. You can build a car from scratch. Classic Industries, Year One, Chevy World, Rick’s First Gen are just a few. ---
**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/23 "2009-01-08T15:32:38Z")
thats a formula, most were formula 400’s But 71-72 they made some 455HO powerd ones. Very bad ass, round port heads, bigger cam, alum intake, 800cfm QJet. Good exhust manifolds like a short header. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/24 "2009-01-09T05:55:58Z")
You can DD one for sure. If you don’t mind gas prices too much, I wouldn’t expect more then maybe 12 mpg out of a carbed v8. It would be awesome though to buy one and swap in say a 4.8/5.3 GM truck engine with a 6 speed auto tranny. I bet you could net closer to 20mpg and have a ~350 hp classic car. As you can tell they are still pretty cheap cars, as far as price goes. I’d say buy one! [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks\_\_\_1972-Pontiac-Firebird-original-350-engine-2BBL\_W0QQitemZ290287181377QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item290287181377&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1972-Pontiac-Firebird-original-350-engine-2BBL_W0QQitemZ290287181377QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item290287181377&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) ![http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/24/59/fbe7_1.JPG](http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/24/59/fbe7_1.JPG) [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks\_\_\_1971-Pontiac-Firebird\_W0QQitemZ330298430498QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item330298430498&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1971-Pontiac-Firebird_W0QQitemZ330298430498QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item330298430498&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) ![http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/28/40/506a_1.JPG](http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/28/40/506a_1.JPG) OMG a skybird! Someone buy this thing! 🙂 [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks\_\_\_1977-PONTIAC-SKYBIRD-ESPRIT-FIREBIRD-ONE-OWNER-RARE-CAR\_W0QQitemZ310113540313QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item310113540313&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1977-PONTIAC-SKYBIRD-ESPRIT-FIREBIRD-ONE-OWNER-RARE-CAR_W0QQitemZ310113540313QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item310113540313&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) ![http://carad.ebayimg.com/i9/05/a/000/79/f9/a633_4.JPG](http://carad.ebayimg.com/i9/05/a/000/79/f9/a633_4.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Muscle50](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bcef8e/32.png) [@Muscle50](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Muscle50)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/25 "2009-01-09T06:13:36Z")
HMMM notice how not one Mustang owner jumped in this thread to talk about their car, motor, etc? ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/26 "2009-01-09T07:30:55Z")
> [@Muscle50](#): > > HMMM notice how not one Mustang owner jumped in this thread to talk about their car, motor, etc? Good! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/27 "2009-01-09T08:08:00Z")
> [@Muscle50](#): > > HMMM notice how not one Mustang owner jumped in this thread to talk about their car, motor, etc? True! Though I do have a soft spot in my heart for notches! 🙂 😛 I always wanted an old car with a new drive train (year wise not condition). ---
**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/28 "2009-01-09T08:10:13Z")
My vote is for a 70 my fave, i also have a soft spot in my heart for the iroc years. ![http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/nelnova/Picture001.jpg](http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/nelnova/Picture001.jpg) ![http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/nelnova/Picture316.jpg](http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/nelnova/Picture316.jpg) ![http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/nelnova/Picture311.jpg](http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/nelnova/Picture311.jpg) I plan on buying another iroc this summer for a daily driver. ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/29 "2009-01-09T08:12:49Z")
Ya Irocs look nice too when done right. ---
**Author:** ![civicjim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/civicjim/32/5297_2.png) [@civicjim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/civicjim)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/30 "2009-01-09T08:15:14Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > It would be awesome though to buy one and swap in say a 4.8/5.3 GM truck engine with a 6 speed auto tranny. I bet you could net closer to 20mpg and have a ~350 hp classic car. > > [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks\_\_\_1971-Pontiac-Firebird\_W0QQitemZ330298430498QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS\_Cars\_Trucks?hash=item330298430498&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&\_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1971-Pontiac-Firebird_W0QQitemZ330298430498QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item330298430498&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318) > > ![http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/28/40/506a_1.JPG](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/d/4dcb57651a75abfd07fb36c70c6c5108c49bdb34.jpeg) Hot as shit. Love the lines and the color of it. Swap in a K20a and maybe some nice Volks and you got a damn nice car. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/31 "2009-01-09T08:19:16Z")
> [@civicjim](#): > > Hot as shit. Love the lines and the color of it. Swap in a K20a and maybe some nice Volks and you got a damn nice car. :tup: I think im happy i dont know what a K20A is. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/32 "2009-01-09T09:21:10Z")
it sucks, I do ☹ don’t forget ITB, and strech dem tirz ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/33 "2009-01-09T10:49:12Z")
> [@civicjim](#): > > Swap in a K20a and maybe some nice Volks and you got a damn nice car. :tup: i’m hoping that is a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/34 "2009-01-09T11:15:02Z")
> [@9c1ny](#): > > I think the early 2nd gens are a good investment, 1st gens have been over done IMHO Yeah, first gens are a bad investment:lol::lol::lol: ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/35 "2009-01-09T11:18:28Z")
I love that shade of blue on the first pic. Soooo sexy. I’ve always liked my 3rd gen hehe. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm2.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm2.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm3.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm3.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm5.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm5.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm1.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/tallywhacker/TransAm1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/36 "2009-01-09T11:29:50Z")
> [@civicjim](#): > > Hot as shit. Love the lines and the color of it. Swap in a K20a and maybe some nice Volks and you got a damn nice car. :tup: DIAF ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Danger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt_danger/32/4981_2.png) [@Matt\_Danger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Matt_Danger)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/37 "2009-01-09T11:57:41Z")
I used to own a '71 TA. It was originally an Esprit that was cloned into a TA. I know a lot more about 2nd gen Firebirds/TAs than Camaros but I’ll share what I can. My old car: ![http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1174/540948891_7c36c81249.jpg?v=0](http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1174/540948891_7c36c81249.jpg?v=0) 70-73 F-bodys are more valuable than 74+, with the exception of the '74 TA Super Duty and the '77-78 SE (Smokey & the Bandit car). I haven’t watched the market for these cars lately so I don’t know if their growth has slowed with the economy. For a while numbers matching TAs were getting high in value. Base model Firebirds are still cheap (\<$5000) to come by, depending on their condition. Numbers matching 4 speed TAs go for over $30,000. TA Super Dutys are outrageous. I bought my freshly painted TA clone in 2004 for $2500 and put a motor and interior in. I sold it in 2007 for almost $7000. Year correct parts are more expensive but most parts from late 70s cars will fit. Classic Industries and Performance Years have A LOT of repro stuff. Good Pontiac 400 motors are getting a little harder to come by for cheap but I bought a good running '69 400 engine (YC code) for $250 in 2005. The biggest problem when finding a car is finding one that isn’t rotted (most are). Floor and trunk pans, rear frame rails, quarter panels, rear tail panels, rear window, etc are the common areas. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/38 "2009-01-09T12:07:22Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Yeah, first gens are a bad investment:lol::lol::lol: Yea, Pauly and I were thinking of trading ours in as a down payment on a Prius. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/39 "2009-01-09T12:15:38Z")
omg 3rd gens, stab me in the face ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960/40 "2009-01-09T12:24:32Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Yeah, first gens are a bad investment:lol::lol::lol: I didnt say they were a bad investment I simply said 2nd gens are a good investment and IMO 1st gens have been overdone (not saying a thing about their investability) learn to read [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/early-f-body-lovers-please-step-in/60960.md?page=3)