# Electric Cars for the masses? (MIT Solution) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 8, 2011, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262 "2011-06-08T10:06:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/21 "2011-06-09T06:28:39Z")
Think: cordless drills. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/22 "2011-06-09T06:29:27Z")
I don’t know how slurry pumps. I am picturing high viscosity or whatever. We really don’t know the details at this point. Propane it is not hard to pump but they do have cylinders ready for you. :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/23 "2011-06-09T06:30:04Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Seriously guys? Pumping is an issue? Something even complete idiots are capable of doing at self service stations even though currently we’re pumping a highly unstable and explosive fuel? A little loss is no big deal when you’re not reusing the fuel. If you’re pumping slurry in and out then it’s going to get dirty and contaminated and there will be loss. Then you’ve at least got to have a ton of filtration and some makeup slurry. If you can just swap a charging pack and go about your day then you’re all good. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/24 "2011-06-09T06:38:20Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Think: cordless drills. :tup: Think about all the waste in building a crash safe wrapper for that drill battery though. Plastics to protect it, metals for the contacts etc. I just like the idea of building a well engineered case for the fluid that’s part of the car and simply swapping out the fluid. It’s something we’re really good at doing already. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/25 "2011-06-09T07:05:30Z")
I think it depends on what tolerance for impurity the stuff has and how much processing it goes through to get recharged. If it’s just like equivalent to a battery core and its gotta pretty much be re-made, sucking it out would be fine. If not, I don’t want the stuff coming out of some guy’s old rusty shitbox with the contaminated tank, or the stuff that someone put water/peed in to take out some vendetta against the gas station… ---
**Author:** ![Maverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Maverick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/26 "2011-06-09T12:52:47Z")
Think of it like an AC machine. Quick connect for evacuation and quick connect for new stuff. First pump stations will be full serve until the majority are educated enough to go self serve. I think portable, pourable slurry is a lot better than small battery packs. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/27 "2011-06-09T13:05:09Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Think: cordless drills. :tup: They did mention that a possibility was to have it be sort of like changing a tire. Unscrew it, drop it off, grab a new one, be on your way. “Another potential advantage is that in vehicle applications, such a system would permit the possibility of simply “refueling” the battery by pumping out the liquid slurry and pumping in a fresh, fully charged replacement, **or by swapping out the tanks like tires at a pit stop** , while still preserving the option of simply recharging the existing material when time permits.” ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/28 "2011-06-09T13:48:51Z")
If the process is any more difficult than todays standard of plugging in to a single orifice, then people will find it too cumbersome. Just because a technology works, does not mean people are ready for it. I think potato’s are the answer. ![http://www.staidenshomeschool.com/sitebuilder/images/Potato_clock_178-440x280.jpg](http://www.staidenshomeschool.com/sitebuilder/images/Potato_clock_178-440x280.jpg) Two or three of those are enough to power the needs and in most cases improve the life of people in developing 3rd world countries. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/29 "2011-06-09T13:51:38Z")
what would we do with all the waste potatoes? ---
**Author:** ![purestock240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purestock240/32/5729_2.png) [@purestock240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/purestock240)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/30 "2011-06-09T14:34:07Z")
eat them ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/31 "2011-06-09T15:35:43Z")
Its not ready yet. We will need synthetic spuds 1st. That way they can catch up on the obesity indexwhile too ---
**Author:** ![Maverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Maverick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maverick)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/32 "2011-06-09T16:17:15Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:28,topic:213262"”] I think potato’s are the answer. Two or three of those are enough to power the needs and in most cases improve the life of people in developing 3rd world countries. [/quote] I hope thats sarcasm. If not, it takes a significant amount more energy to make the electrodes than you get out of it so thats useless. And no pumping. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/33 "2011-06-09T16:56:00Z")
> [@purestock240](#): > > eat them after the copper nails are pulled out? lol they’ll probably taste gross AND give you cancer! yayy ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/34 "2011-06-10T06:00:57Z")
Triple score. ---
**Author:** ![evane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@evane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evane)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/electric-cars-for-the-masses-mit-solution/213262/35 "2011-06-23T12:08:06Z")
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